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#1611 Post by Zelandeth »

Thanks to the efforts of the guys at The Garage over in Wolverton, we've now got four wheels on our wagon again.

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Of course I was immediately sent out into properly torrential rain this afternoon. Unsurprisingly these handle surface water rather better than the tyres that came off, especially given they were far more worn on the inner edges than I'd realised.

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I do sometimes wonder whether the legal wear limit needs to be reconsidered given how wide tyres generally are these days. There's a hell of a lot more tyre to shift water from under on something like this compared to the skinny 140-160 profile stuff that was the norm in the 80s. It also means that it's way easier to end up with a tyre that's damned near through to the cords on one shoulder but technically is still legal given the measurement is over 75% of the tread surface.

I am glad to report that with four new tyres, correct wheel alignment and properly balanced wheels the vibration at speed has been *completely* eliminated. Cruising at motorway speeds is now positively serene. Going to have to be very careful now as there is very little to tell you you're actually going that fast, this is a car which you could end up very easily speeding quite substantially after a tiny squirt of throttle for an overtake on the motorway.

Also dealt with the position light I noticed was out yesterday. No thanks to Halfords where I had an absolute fight to get these.

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As I've mentioned before, our store a couple of months ago was "improved" and one of the changes that came with this was basically all consumables aside from oil being moved to be behind the counter. So you have to get someone to go retrieve it for you rather than just picking it up and going to the till. Bulbs, wipers, batteries, filters, they're all back there now. At the best of the time this is an utter pain as it means that the one till that's ever open is having to deal with significantly more workload. Queuing times are at least doubled since the change. It's also a royal pain trying to explain to someone who has zero technical knowledge and zero interest in gaining any to find your slightly oddball bulb for you (the 10W festoon ones for the Trabant tail lights took some getting). I'd hoped this would be a two minute job...but no. The guy wouldn't just go and get the bulbs I asked for - he insisted on taking my reg and looking them up. W5Ws are so obscure aren't they? Then kept completely failing to understand the difference between the daytime running lights and the position lights. After what felt like an eternity of going back and forwards, and a queue of about ten people having built up behind me, I eventually left with the bulbs, my patience however was nowhere to be seen, having utterly evaporated by that point!

Changing it was actually really simple - thanks to Volvo being sensible.

The holder in question is actually buried deep in the wing, however they put a really long extension on the back of the lamp holder so you can reach it.

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It's the vertical white bit of plastic just visible in the void just right of centre frame. Once you've popped off the connector for the indicator it's pretty easy to remove. Here's a photo of it out showing how long that extension piece is.

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The only reason for including that bit of extra plastic was to make it easy to change the bulb without having to remove the headlight. Other makers could really take lessons from that.

Driver's side is a bit more fiddly as the washer bottle filler neck is in the way so I used a pair of pliers to grab it instead. Reckon I probably could have managed by hand, it just would have involved more swearing.

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I think one screw removed let's you unclip the filler neck, but it was so easy to just grab with the pliers it didn't seem worth messing about with.

I changed both as I figured if one had blown the other probably wasn't far behind. It was very blackened, so I reckon I wasn't far off the mark. Job done on both sides in about 15 minutes.

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Shudder to think how long that would have taken on quite a few cars of this age where I'd have ended up having to dismantle half the front of the car.

Rear ones we don't need to worry about as they're LED based so shouldn't need any maintenance (or rather will write the whole cluster off when they fail).

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To be fair I've never heard of them failing in these clusters, and I do admit that I think that little strip that forms the rear position lights does look smart. I don't think they're even obligatory lights in the UK anyway - they're over and above the actual daytime running lights that Volvo have had since the dawn of time.

Glad we really seem to have got the handling and vibration issues sorted. I hate to use superlatives like "it feels like a completely different car" but it's not actually that far off the mark here. It's uncanny how serene it is cruising now. Do kind of wish we could drop the wheel size down to 16" though as adding a bit of extra sidewall would help the ride a bit around town. It is what it is though, that's just the curse of modern cars.
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#1612 Post by Zelandeth »

After a surprisingly long period sitting for sale, the Partner went off to a new home yesterday. Just the wrong time of year to be selling a car. It is what it is though, and with me not being able to park it on my property it needed to go.

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It's definitely a car I'll miss. Such a useful thing and surprisingly pleasant to drive - though that did surprise me a little less once I discovered how much DNA it actually shares with the Pug 306 under the skin, which was surely one of the best driving cars of the 90s in any of its variants.

If you've been on the fence, considering a Berlingo/Partner and have been wondering if they're really as good all rounders as the hype would have you believe, I'm just going to say a solid yes in my view. Having owned one now I'd confidently say that one will be the only car that 99.9% of drivers will ever need. Despite the boxy looks they've got a chassis which allows them to be more fun on a twisty road than you'd think too. The French seem to be really good at that, making cars which handle far better than you'd think, and also ride comfortably.

I've really not been doing much lately. I've been generally a bit time poor lately and just have lost my mojo with regards to doing car work to be honest. However I managed to coerce myself into actually looking at one of my to do list items on the Rover, namely the adjustment of the kickdown cable. It was far too loose before. Still is, but it's definitely better. There's apparently barely anything between too loose and too tight, so there's probably going to be a few iterations there before I get it spot on.

Something I'd never actually checked on this car was the condition of the air filter elements.

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Looks like they were changed when most of the work was done to the car, so nothing wrong with those. Not the biggest filters for 3.5 litres of engine to breathe through though - especially not when you see how little clearance there is inside the filter housing.

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There's not enough room around the filters to fit a finger in, so I'm sure this does restrict breathing quite a bit. Rover obvious deemed it to be fine, but it doesn't surprise me that I've seen alternative arrangements in place on a lot of examples people have modified for more grunt. Not that it feels like the car needs any, with the torque available it feels *plenty* perky. I do wonder if the original filter elements might have been more conical in shape which would have clearly helped with breathing?

Volvo was away on work duties today, but I needed to make a tip run - so Rover was up on daily duties in this regard

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There's no such thing as a car on my fleet that gets away with not earning it's keep it it's working. While any of them might pop up at shows, they'll also all do runs to the supermarket, trips to the recycling centre and just general running around.

Having added a bit of tape over the gap on the side of the heater box has helped get us at least some heat into the car. I really need to take the whole assembly out and put it back together properly though - there isn't room to access it in situ...so I wish whoever had it out had just screwed it back together properly. It's not the end of the world to remove, just faff I'd rather not have to deal with.

On the plus side, last time I had done a run to the recycling centre in this car I broke down about 30 seconds after leaving when the fuel pump died for the second time. This time I actually made it home under my own power without having to get a lift home to grab bits to jury rig an alternative fuel supply...so I'll take that as a win. Actually felt good to just use it as "an car" for the afternoon, and have it just behave like one.

Hopefully won't be so long before the next update.
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#1613 Post by Zelandeth »

Had another poke around at the kickdown cable on the Rover. I think I've figured out the reason it's been a bit erratic. Someone at some point in the past has kinked the inner cable so it doesn't always return properly when the tension is released - which is going to be why it seems to sometimes hold first gear when you've pulled out of a junction on a light throttle. You could tell something was amiss with the cable as often when you looked at the cable it would be bundled up outside the top of the ferrule. I've done what I can to flatten out the kink and lubricate the cable and it seems to be behaving a lot better now though I've not had a chance to do a test run yet. I've also replaced the random bolt I was holding it on with before as even with a locknut on I'd already lost the bolt twice.

I honestly don't know what type of fastener should be in here as it was totally missing when I got the car, but for now we've gone with "comedically oversized R clip."

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It looks ridiculous, but it's not going anywhere nor does it catch on anything, so it will be fine until I find what should actually be in there.

I'm not actually sure which of the two holes in that arm the kickdown cable should be attached to - I went with the outer one as that is the one which had witness marks on to suggest it had been used before. Though it doesn't pull the cable straight. However the other hole in the arm also pulls the cable at an angle in the other direction, so neither looks to be perfect.

While in the vicinity I have found evidence that I still have a small water leak somewhere on the top of the engine.

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Exactly where from is anybody's guess as there's so much going on around the heads and inlet manifold. I'll need to investigate that further at some point, my prime suspects are the thermostat housing or the flange the heater hose in the middle of the photo above is attached to are my prime suspects.

I had a dim memory somewhere that I'd noted the car still had the ballast supply to the ignition coil in play. I've now confirmed this is the case.

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Which would be fine if this car hadn't been fitted with a Petronix ignition system, which calls for a direct 12V feed. Running them on a ballasted supply can actually damage the unit over time and apparently can mess with how the dwell setting behaves, so it really should have the ballast bypassed. I've no idea if this coil is the correct type to be used on a direct feed though, and the label with the details on has long since vanished. The primary resistance is 2.9 ohms, which is within 0.1 ohm of the coil on TPA which definitely has a direct feed, so I reckon this coil may be fine. That's a job for another day though. On the plus side, I do have an ignition switched 12V line right next to the coil from when I was messing about with an electric fuel pump which I'd had fitted in that corner. So that's handy at least. Be curious to see if having a full 12V there makes any difference, given the engine actually seems to be running pretty well as it is.
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#1614 Post by rich. »

I had a look at the carb connection/r clip.. could it be a clevis pin? Similar to the handbrake cable connector pin on a mgb?
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#1615 Post by Zelandeth »

rich. wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:48 am I had a look at the carb connection/r clip.. could it be a clevis pin? Similar to the handbrake cable connector pin on a mgb?
Yep, a little smaller I believe, but that's exactly the sort of thing which should be in there.

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In truly world shaking news, I actually did something car related today. Was even successful at 50% of the items attempted.

Was intended to be oil, oil filter, fuel filter and air filter changes on the Volvo. Which it's been nagging me about for an embarrassingly long number of weeks now.

First try of the new vacuum oil drainer.

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First impressions, far prefer it to the Pela it's replaced. Being tall but narrow.it actually takes up less room in the garage in terms of footprint, and having the pump integrated means you can operate it easily one handed - that would just result in the pump pulling off the top of the Pela. Also seems to be *way* faster - though admittedly 0W30 oil isn't exactly the thickest. Far easier to judge how much came out as well which takes some of the guesswork out of refilling. My Pela has always had issues with air leaks as well which meant you had to pump it a LOT when draining anything with a larger sump than the Invacar. I know it doesn't really mean anything, but this *feels* less flimsy too. 6.5 litre capacity means I can juuuuust manage a change on the Volvo without having to empty it mid way through as well which is nice. The Pela was officially 5, but I found unless you were continually pumping it the usable capacity was somewhere between 3-4 litres.

Have to confess this is the first time I've actually pulled the cover off the Volvo's engine.

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Still makes my brain do a slight double take seeing odd numbers of things like injectors on an engine in a passenger car. It alarms me quite how many things I'm looking at in here and realising that I have absolutely no idea of the purpose of. A hell of a lot going on, but even under the cover it's a pretty tidy setup by modern standards at least compared to some others I've seen. Hello VW, yes I'm looking at you.

Speaking of the cover, there have clearly been mice in here at some point.

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This appears to be significantly historic though as none of the bits of shredded acoustic foam are present around the engine bay, and I can't see anything else that's been nibbled thankfully.

My progress however was halted by this fluffing thing.

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This is the cap concealing the replaceable element oil filter. Which is absolutely biblically tight. This is the third car I've had to deal with one of these on, and it's the third one I've had this fight with. On the Caddy I ended up having to get a breaker bar on it, the one on the Partner did eventually let go when I had all my weight hanging off it (which resulted in me just about knocking myself out on the battery when it let go and cutting my hand to ribbons on the radiator). This one I'm seriously worried that I'm going to shatter the thing - I can both feel and see the whole thing flexing. Will need to see if I can get a strap wrench around it *and* the socket on the top to try to turn the whole thing at once. I may see if I can get a spare cap from Volvo first just as insurance in case it does disintegrate.

I am seriously developing a real hatred for this style of oil filter.

Much as it pained me I admitted defeat and it got refilled with fresh oil with the old filter still in, and I'll come back to this next week - due to work going on at the moment I don't have a space on the drive to work in till Monday so it won't be until then at the earliest. I was out of time and energy by the time I waved the white flag on that so the rest of the filters will also need to wait.

Do seem to have found the source of my small oil leak.

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Looks to be weeping out from under the rocker cover in the vicinity of that actuator (no idea what for!). Which given that the rocker cover also seems to BE the intake manifold, looks like it will be all manner of fun to rectify. Aren't modern cars fun? Realistically that's just being filed under "monitor" for now. I will most likely chuck that at a garage to sort if it becomes an issue as this is just too modern for me to really be comfortable beyond basic servicing, especially anything that involves dismantling bits of common rail injection systems. Nope, that sounds like a job for someone else.

Hopefully I can at least change the sodding oil filter without needing to call in reinforcements though...that would be nice in the whole "not feeling completely useless" department.
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#1616 Post by gazza82 »

Same type of oil filter cover on all manner of engines now ... and same issue ... tight as Scrooge's wallet.

The one on our 206 1.4hDi eventually came off with just a breaker and socket the first time I changed it, and before that it was a dealer service. (This is the same engine fitted to Ford's, etc).
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#1618 Post by Zelandeth »

Not often you see a Model 67 out in the world - or any of the older Villiers bases machines for that matter! I assume that's a recent photo?

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Having followed the tracking numbers for the packages from Trabantwelt, I knew they arrived at my local Parcel Force depot a week ago. Waiting to be dispatched to me once the customs charges were paid...which they insist on sending a physical letter to you containing the reference number that you need to use to pay said charge through their website. Why they couldn't email that number to you with the rest of the tracking information, or indeed let you use one of the two tracking numbers provided to pay the charges I don't know. The last couple of times this had happened I just went to the depot in person with all the details, paid and collected my item then - last time the letter arrived a full 10 days later! No dice when I tried this at the end of last week though, they weren't willing to do anything without the letter. Today I had a parcel to drop off there anyway so asked again as it was someone different on the desk. Result?

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A pocket £400 lighter for customs charges and a boot full of boxes. I was sure I was going to have to fold the seats down when I was walking up to the car, but they just vanished into the boot with room to spare. The amount of stuff you can get in the boot of this car is just silly.

Everything was very well packed and double boxed.

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This is just the order I randomly found things when I checked out what was in the boxes.

First item I fished out was the new clutch friction disc.

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Which is definitely the smallest I've seen on a car. Hand for scale.

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New contact breaker point box.

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Clutch release bearing.

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Clutch pressure plate, fittings and instructions.

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Head gasket set & spark plugs (handy as the new pair of plugs I originally picked up were the wrong sort and I'd forgotten to order more).

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New jugs, heads and pistons. Seeing things like this that are well...new...is kind of strange. Never mind for something that's not been in production for going on 35 years.

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New air guide plate for between the cylinders. Didn't know this was included, not sure if it's a tweaked version as part of the upgrades.

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Next box.

Firstly involved extracting an unfeasible seeming amount of padding before extracting any actual parts.

New exhaust manifold. This is one which has had the air jacket modified to provide the additional clearance needed to accommodate the larger (in particular taller) carb. Usually fitting that means losing the preheater duct for the cabin heater. This allows that to be retained and the heater to work as designed. This does actually make a huge difference to how effective the heater is.

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New fan belt - a slightly different length to the stock one. A modified alternator bracket is another part of the Mikuni carb upgrade, and necessitates a slightly different belt length (longer I think).

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The aforementioned alternator bracket is on the left, full set of engine/gearbox mounts and their associated hardware on the right.

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One shiny flat slide Mikuni carb and the required larger bore air filter duct. This has already been jetted and tuned for this engine which should save me a fair bit of time.

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Random bottle of two stroke oil which seems to ship with all their engines and rebuild kits.

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Finally the main event.

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One shiny new engine core.

Normally this would have been shipped with the cylinders already fitted, they had to be split to get the weight of the packages down to a point where they could be shipped via their usual DHL setup rather than having to resort to freight which would have been a major headache as far as customs arrangements would have been concerned due to changes which came in at the end of January.

This crankcase also has the necessary adapter to accept the Mikuni carb already installed.

So with this lot all here we can start getting the car back on the road now. Hopefully get the old unit pulled out shortly and get the necessary bits transferred over.

More bits in these boxes than I'd remembered there! Be good to actually have some meaningful updates to put on here for a change!
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#1619 Post by Zelandeth »

Having to rewind to June to remind myself exactly where we were with this?

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After a brief bit of reminding myself what was and wasn't removed/disconnected we got stuck back in.

Alternator was detached and tucked out of the way - the main terminal was threatening to pull the post out rather than unbolt do I just left it connected - there's plenty of slack in the wiring to do this once unclipped from the guides on the bell housing and crankcase.

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In my sights next was the carb. I'm not absolutely certain it needs to come off to pull the unit, but it sits quite close to the front panel so I figured there was a chance of it causing clearance issues. Cables needed to come off either way, so for the sake of two additional nuts there didn't seem to be much reason not to pull it off.

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The ignition pickup was disconnected (made easier by the connector I added a while back) and the old fan belt was then pulled. This has reduced the amount of "stuff" we need to contend with quite a lot and made the already small unit look far smaller still.

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As the bolts holding the starter motor in place also double as two of the bell housing bolts, that had to go and hang out with the alternator for a while. That cost me by far the most time as I had to go and excavate a fair portion of the garage to find a suitable hex bit for them as they have Allen heads. They were also absolutely wicked tight.

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Don't do this by the way in most cases. It's a good way to break wiring. However the wiring to the starter on this thing you could probably lift the whole car by.

The cover on the points box was also removed to give a bit of extra clearance at that end of the engine. The one engine mount directly under it was unbolted followed by the remaining bell housing bolts. All four of them. I kept thinking I must have missed one. After only a small amount of swearing later while I figured out exactly which direction things needed to be twisted to fit through the available space, the engine was out.

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It is indeed quite a tight fit to get it out between the inner wing and the gearbox in situ but it's entirely doable, contrary to what a couple of things I've read suggested. Which I'm pleased about as anything which saves me from having to mess about with CV joints can only be a good thing.

As far as weight is concerned, yes it's a reasonably heavy chunk of metal. However it's absolutely reasonable to lift it by hand so long as you've planned it out and are a bit careful. Once out the car and you can get a better angle on it it's really not hard to pick up or carry around. It's a lot lighter than the starter motor on a Gardner 6LXW - that much I can tell you!

Ignition pickup bits have been removed and safely stashed for transfer to the new unit.

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Helpfully is all keyed so you'd really have to try to fit it wrong - the only actual adjustment needed is to ensure that the ignition triggers with the piston 2mm before top dead centre.

You may recall me mentioning that I was kind of curious to examine the clutch to see if we could see any evidence which would suggest a reason for the judder. Yeah, we didn't need to look too hard!

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While the friction disc doesn't look bad, both the pressure plate and flywheel are pretty horrendous. There are several clear hot spots and some very deep grooves in there on both surfaces. Thankfully none of these parts need to be reused so it's not an issue and it's nice to see a likely cause. The release bearing actually looks near enough new, though as I've got a new one I'll change it. The one coming off is entirely good enough to keep as a spare.

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Probably 45 minutes or so (and a decent chunk of that was me finding a hex bit to undo the starter motor bolts) to get from where we started to having it out and the bits I need to transfer removed. Tools used:

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Only thing we used initially stripping the engine down and removing the whole top end not shown here was a pair of circlip pliers to remove the clips holding the wrist pins in when pulling the pistons.

Really do wish all cars were this simple to work on!
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#1620 Post by rich. »

Progress!! I've missed your trabants adventures :thumbs:
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