Early Javelin Restoration

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Grumpy Northener
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#251 Post by Grumpy Northener »

Managed to locate a decent lamp housing which just required a minor repair, Peter had also located new one piece seals for the housings - so this was trial fitted
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It just needs shot blasting / priming - the nearside one requires a bit more work as the studs have sheared but easily sorted
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Peter - who owns the Javelin is over from Switzerland for the week so he has been put to task to go through all the bits and sort them into order, locate what's missing from the vast spares stock and get everything cleaned up / primed
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And that's only half of it !!
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#252 Post by Grumpy Northener »

Meanwhile the rear wing had been off and back on a few times for final fettling so I was by now happy with the panels and the fit on the offside
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so that's milestone number 1 sorted today - I mounted the shell back up to the chassis tilter and inverted the car
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With door apertures aligned I could now complete the welding on the outrigger / jacking point which retains the B post
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So with the outrigger sorted milestone number 2 was achieved ' All structural welding to the bodyshell completed' :D
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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TerryG
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#253 Post by TerryG »

What are you teasing us with hidden under dust sheets?!?!
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#254 Post by Grumpy Northener »

The bracing for the B posts could now have the welds unpicked and the frame removed
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Then we turned the car around ( I like to work down the wallside of the workshop - it keeps all the grinding dust / welding fumes within short reach of the industrial extractor fan and prevents the other cars being showered in grinding / welding sparks)
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The shell was removed from the chassis tilter (The tilter mounts to the cars bumper irons but the irons travel through apertures in the wings so to mount the wings the tilter frames need to be out of the way)
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#255 Post by Grumpy Northener »

What are you teasing us with hidden under dust sheets?!?!
Terry - 2 more Jowetts I'm afraid - Jowett Javelin - 500,000 miles from new & a Jowett Jupiter - rallied in 27 countries, then up in the top garage is another Jupiter (all belong to fellow members), plus my Javelin, then spread between the workshop and the shed outside is my project Jupiter in many pieces, Ho, and on the drive is a another Javelin shell (Ex works / factory experimental car) which awaits a full restoration :o - I will take some pics next time I am over there
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#256 Post by Grumpy Northener »

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After a little persuasion I got a decent fit with the front panel and the nearside wing
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Not too bad a fit on the aperture either
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But poor inline alignment of the wing / door
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#257 Post by Grumpy Northener »

So what's under the filler then ?
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Just more grot :(
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Repair fabricated / welded / initial clean up
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Wing has to now come back off so that I can dress the flange and complete the welding cleaning up from the rear - the repair can be dressed to shape and then refitted
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Pleased with the progress though - ideally I need to get all the panel work complete before the end of November then the shell can go for dipping.
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#258 Post by Grumpy Northener »

Wing back off - fettled and bolted back on, very good fit on the front but now I had too tight a gap on the door to wing aperture - the front would be very difficult to alter so it has come off the wing edge so here is how
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Ground the wing edge back enough to get the gapping required and then reduced a further 2.5 mm - this splits the flange so that you will now have three unattached pieces of metal on the wing edge - these were clamped together and the edge tacked with the welder
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Then fully welded
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#259 Post by Grumpy Northener »

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welded edge ground back and checked prior to wing coming back off to tidy the inner flange edge
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Wing back on and gapping to match the offside
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I got the side alignment as close as possible - the remaining difference will be made up by lead loading the low areas
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#260 Post by Grumpy Northener »

Whilst on the front of the car the original bonnet was attached
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But the fit is appalling
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On further inspection the leading edge that meets the bulkhead is distorted
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and the sides are a poor fit to the wings, to cap it all the front edge fouled with the wings - on checking the frame that supports the bonnet skin was all over the place having being butchered whilst under previous ownership - time to place it on the scrap pile then !!
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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