Car SOS

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TerryG
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Re: Car SOS

#121 Post by TerryG »

The finished product looked amazing, I'm not sure I agree with the rover v8 being described as complex, a pushrod v8 is only as complex as an a-series with 2 heads. I would also note that it only has one cam shaft so when the narrator said that it is at a specialist having it's cams replaced he was not entirely correct. Otherwise that was thoroughly entertaining :)
The aluminium foil sills were a first, I have seen lots made of filler in the past but never foil.
Did the owner really drive away when having a test without coming back to say thank you?
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Re: Car SOS

#122 Post by Phil P »

No, it was MOT'd but not taxed. I think it's called tellyvisual effect.

Not all the script gets checked by the technical guys so bits slip through. I did say we had a car with self adhesive foil sections. It must have cost a fortune to use it. There was loads of the stuff. Material had to be welded in to have something to then weld wheel arches sills and pillars to. Wait till you see the car with new pieces 'pop' rivetted in and the B post could be pushed in and out. :roll:

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#123 Post by TerryG »

Phil P wrote:Wait till you see the car with new pieces 'pop' rivetted in and the B post could be pushed in and out. :roll:
is that next week's one?
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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#124 Post by Dave3066 »

Phil P wrote:Did you like the Rover P6B? The ultimate rust bucket! The self adhesive patches were something else.
I enjoyed watching this one. I'd have preferred to see how Fuzz tackled the welding rather than prep'ing the panels for paint, but that's only because I have a similarly rusty P6 undergoing resto at home. Was there much else to do with the mechanicals other than the engine?

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Re: Car SOS

#125 Post by sierra3dr »

hobby wrote:Just watched the Anglia one...
Just watched it on youtube. Should of sold it to the Classic Car Rescue chaps,they would have got it on the road :D
hobby wrote:If the chat was anything to go by the engine sounded like a virtual full race job that was (is?) found in short circuit Hot Rods developing over 150bhp... Hardly the wisest thing for a beginner on the roads to drive...
I agree to a certain degree,but I think the new owner came across as having a mature head.
I still would have put seat-belts in
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#126 Post by JPB »

What is VM8 and do I want to download episodes from the NatGeo app in that format instead of MP4 as I've done so far? Both seem to work. :?

Also, please may we have HD as 640x360 doesn't really provide the greatest of detail?
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#127 Post by Phil P »

I think Sierra that you should have seen the Anglia shell in the flesh. I think you would have had a totally differant thought if you had. It was a death trap and a crusher is the best place for it. If it could have been repaired it would have been. Even the owner agreed it was too far gone to save. The 'A' post finished at the bottom of the windscreen and was not connected to the bulkhead. It would have meant cutting the shell into pieces to get to it.

I believe seat belts were going to be fitted after filming at the expence of the programme makers even though it doesn't need them due to it's age.

The engine was about 130BHP and sounded better than it was. I have built a few Hot Rod engines in the past mainly 1650cc with A6 cams and 45 DCOE Webers. The best we got was 165BHP at the flywheel but pulled 8000RPM with ease. The biggest engine I did on a 711 block was 1830cc. Now THAT would pull though illegal for short circuit racing. We never got caught. :lol: This was before electronic ignition and other clever bits. I digress.

The Rover engine and gearbox were overhauled though only the engine was mentioned in the voice over. The overhaul of the De Dion suspension was filmed but not shown. There was a shot of me and Fuzz shown bolting the engine and gearbox together and fitting the bits and pieces onto it. It wasn't in the afternoon with the lights off it was very late at night. That was so it could be filmed being fitted with Tim the next morning.

I think because some things aren't shown there is a great deal or speculation that these cars are a case of a quick lash up for TV. It most definatley isn't. The team work all the hours required including weekends to do all the work required to fit into the tight schedule. NOTHING is 'skimmed over' or not done to save or fit the budget. One car, yet to be shown, was loaded by me onto the transporter at 4-15am in the morning while the team in the workshop cleaned up and moved the next car into position to start on it. That car was handed over at 9-00am the same morning 130 miles way. It had had a road test before I loaded it. Very quiet the roads at that time of the morning!

These programmes are made for TV but it doesn't mean that the subject of them is a cheap bodge. All but one of the cars went way over budget. One by £8000!! Some cars that are restored don't get that much spent on them in total.

Specialist companies are used for engine and gearbox reconditioning, upholstery repairs or retrimming, brake part overhaul/reconditioning, electrical work, rechroming etc etc. New tyres are always fitted even if the ones fitted are ok.

I am fiercely defensive of the programme because I know just how much time, effort and care went into these cars.


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Re: Car SOS

#128 Post by hobby »

Shame they couldn't have been two-parters so some more of the technical stuff could have been shown, Phil, that's my only criticism of them as I feel that I learn more from WD than Car SOS even though I know that you've done far more work it doesn't show... Perhaps you have unshown footage that could be made into an "add on" programme for enthusiasts?
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Re: Car SOS

#129 Post by sierra3dr »

Phil P wrote:I think Sierra that you should have seen the Anglia shell in the flesh. I think you would have had a totally differant thought if you had. It was a death trap and a crusher is the best place for it. If it could have been repaired it would have been. Even the owner agreed it was too far gone to save. The 'A' post finished at the bottom of the windscreen and was not connected to the bulkhead. It would have meant cutting the shell into pieces to get to it.
Yes of course,without a doubt. In the filming,the rot was enough to demic the Anglia. I was just making mockery of the tv series Classic Car Rescue,were they would fill the rot in with bodyfiller. Probably not,just exaggerating :D
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#130 Post by TerryG »

sierra3dr wrote:I was just making mockery of the tv series Classic Car Rescue,were they would fill the rot in with screwed up newspaper and paint over it.
Quick edit there.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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