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Cable for Electric window ?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:38 pm
by ttoli
Hi

I have a 1994 Sunny (B13) , n/s rear window doesn't work ,I can hear the motor running when I press the switch which leads me to think that it's the cable? , scrapyards picked clean here (Cyprus) and nothing on fleabay, any Ideas ??
Thanks

Re: Cable for Electric window ?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:17 pm
by JPB
Are you sure it's the cable and not a broken weld in a corner of the frame that the cable runs on? If they crack, or the welds let go, the cable tension is lost but it's the work of five minutes to tack the affected pulley back to the frame, maybe give the remaining pulleys a dob of weld while you're in there.
I've seen plenty with that problem, and VAG cars that use a similar system, but have yet to meet a cable that had broken or frayed. :)

Re: Cable for Electric window ?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:36 pm
by ttoli
Thanks for that (y)

Re: Cable for Electric window ?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:53 pm
by Fatbloke
JPB wrote:Are you sure it's the cable and not a broken weld in a corner of the frame that the cable runs on? If they crack, or the welds let go, the cable tension is lost but it's the work of five minutes to tack the affected pulley back to the frame, maybe give the remaining pulleys a dob of weld while you're in there.
I've seen plenty with that problem, and VAG cars that use a similar system, but have yet to meet a cable that had broken or frayed. :)
Sorry to contradict you John, but I've had to replace both front window regulators on Wife's 04 VW Touran due to frayed/broken cable.

Re: Cable for Electric window ?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:51 pm
by JPB
That's ok, and besides, I don't view your information as contradictory, it's just that you've had to do this and I haven't. I would add the word "yet" but I'm unlikely to encounter this type of mechanism again as I'm close to brainwashing all of the students into buying and using older, more sensibly designed cars so that's a treat I'll just have to forego. ;)
I've had the broken welds to deal with on frames from half a dozen or thereabouts, all bar one were MK3 Golfs, the other was a mid '90s Nissan, can't recall which model so in a sense, I've been lucky but here's a thought ( :o ):

Supposing the cable twists when the tension is lost, say for example when one of the corner pulleys falls off. I always thought that the cable wasn't happy about being replaced after welding had been carried out on a frame, didn't feel right somehow and had minor kinks on some runs, so is it perhaps possible that when the cables have been off their pulleys, so losing their tension and turning themselves instantly and spectacularly into a bird's nest of a thing, the tension is impossible to replicate unless using new cables when the frames are repaired. That being the case, the ones I've fixed at various times would probably still be fine in terms of the frames but the cables may well have frayed as a result of the original frame injury, a bit like replacing the cat gut between the weights and the ratchet hubs in a long case clock? I had that to do and obviously didn't fancy gutting a cat so had the idea of using brass wire instead (I know, I know, but I didn't train on clocks and Subarus run on petrol, not gravity :oops: ).
It works, my clock runs fine but of course that wire, because it had already seen a tour of duty under far greater tension in another application, now has slight kinks and bends in it that look awful if anyone opens the door when the weights are down in the case.

Well it made sense as I was writing it. :)

Re: Cable for Electric window ?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:12 pm
by Mitsuru
I had a problem with the neon's passenger electric window's cable, rather that buy an expensive
replacement full unit, I used bicycle brake cables and managed to make the adjuster that are
usually on the brake leaver into a final bit of adjustment after clamping the ends of the cables
together inside the blastic bracket which blots tp the bottom of the glass. The clamp was the
guts of a electrical strip connector! :lol:

Typically that one is working perfectly and running better than the one in the drivers door :?