1965 singer vogue recomission

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kevin
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#81 Post by kevin »

not done much over the last week as some house repairs were needed.
finished those this morning so had an hour on the singer.
decided to strip the rear drivers brake down to clean and rebuild. the spring washer tool had arrived and really makes life easy when removing the slotted retainer. bonus,
so, first cylinder stripped off. it was plastered in old grease which has really preserved matters.

once cleaned up it looks like new!

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the inside is just as clean. new seals to be fitted tomorrow and thats one wheel done.

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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#82 Post by kevin »

just been drying everything off and making sure things are clean and ready to rebuild.
i have rebuild kits from a well know source but on looking at the seal supplied it is vastly different to the one that is already fitted (external diameter is ok but the inner diameter is a lot smaller).
had a mooch on fleabay and have found some new old stock, genuine lockheed seal kits for sale but in the US of A. ordered them but suppose that will scupper things for a while. i suppose these aftermarket seal kits are like all (or most) pattern spares. nearly correct but not quite?

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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#83 Post by JPB »

Possibly, but more likely that someone chose the wrong size for a pair of replacement cylinders at some point in the car's past. That basic style is very common and while the slides are mostly the same size, their I/Ds vary. Can you measure the diameter and the depth of the groove in the pistons and the I/D of the cylinders and post these dimensions here please? I ask because I have some new (made under three years ago and kept in a cool, but not freezing, dark place) seal kits for these but like I say, many sizes would have been made. If the ones I have are right for your car then they're yours for the cost of the postage. Be very suspicious of old stock rubber components, no matter how good they look when you first unpack them.
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#84 Post by kevin »

will do john. be tomorrow though.
my thoughts are the same as yours, prob replacement wheel cyls although they are a good fit inc the handbrake which is perfect.
there is no sign of leakage so at a push i can use it for now until i get something sorted.

many thanks

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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#85 Post by kevin »

john

spoke with some1 with greater knowledge than me (doesnt take much...). managed to get the seal to sit properly and all is back and working lovely.
thanks for the help

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#86 Post by JPB »

Excellent. Keep up the good work. :)
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#87 Post by kevin »

one down, three to go. all stripped down, cleaned and greased up (with new seals, painted, reassembled and adjusted up.

hope the other 3 hubs go as well.

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the red hue is from my red heater..lovely and toasty warm

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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#88 Post by TerryG »

kevin wrote:the red hue is from my red heater..lovely and toasty warm
I'm not jealous at all, just because I have been tidying my garage in what feels like -40 degrees (but is actually +3 according to the doodah in the garden)
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#89 Post by kevin »

TerryG wrote:
kevin wrote:the red hue is from my red heater..lovely and toasty warm
I'm not jealous at all, just because I have been tidying my garage in what feels like -40 degrees (but is actually +3 according to the doodah in the garden)
the red heater is only temporary until it gets really cold then the clarke little devil comes out. it makes a huge difference in the winter being able to keep warm eh.
well that combined to a bubba keg of fresh coffee and some decent tunes blasting

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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#90 Post by kevin »

no pictures of tonights exploits (some will cheer)
stripped the passenger rear hub, wheel cylinder stripped and is soaking in cleaner ready to rebuild tomorrow.
shoes cleaned and degreased, drum placed in the blaster ready to clean tomorrow.
removed and renewed the single flexable brake pipe to the rear, once again all this was made easy by the previous owner using copious quantities of copper grease on everything :D
so tomorrow, rebuild the cylinder with new seals, paint everything that requires painting, reassemble, adjust and get some new brake fluid flowing to the back end to check for leaks etc before starting the front end.
ordered a set of plastic trim removal tools (sykes). ive decided to remove all the chrome trim to make compounding and (where required) painting/polishing the paintwork a simpler task.
fixed a 5 foot section of 4" drainpipe to the garage ceiling to store all the trim in safely :)

phew.
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