V6 into a RHD Chrysler Neon mk1

[Mitsuru]

John I mean any ideas on the two pins that have snapped off flush
with the plastic and the one the almost pulled out totally before
snapping off!

[Mitsuru]

There is a slight delay on the lpg kit getting to me as the courier didn't
pick it up and won't be picking it up till monday. And te flash lub kit I
ordered separately (brand new) arrived Saturday.

I did find this bit off retro rides rather interesting, the guy installs them
for a living.

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... ead=144769

Well now technically, its quite a big question.
Normal petrol is 95 ron, the expensive stuff 98. Lpg 115-120 ron but
it has a lower calorific value. And it depends how you introduce the
LPG into the engine.
If you have a carb, you introduce it with a mixer just over the top
of the carb. It has a venturi and as vac increases the gas flow does
as well. Put quite simply. However you are restricting the the air
flow a bit. So slightly down on power.
Modern injection systems however are a completely different matter.
They intercept the petrol injector pulse and inject the gas in the
same way as petrol. No restriction to the air flow. So they pull like
a petrol car exactly to the letter.
Turbo cars the waste gate is dictated by the knock sensor, LPG doesn't
knock. Guess what I run ?

[SirTainleyBarking]

Yep, pretty much correct on the LPG.

Only thing I'd add is that when running LPG, make sure your ignition system is 110%, any weakness (That won't show up on Petrol) will show up on gas.

So long as you keep your decent quality plugs and leads in good condition, you'll be good.

[Mitsuru]

I know about tat lpg showing more faults up on an engine
than petrol, most people don't realise that though! It was
for that reason I new that my neon's pervious engine was on
it's way out and start looking at the idea of an engine swap,
I just wasn't expecting the automatic gearbox to go at the
same time.

I will definitely need the lpg fitted on the neon after Sundays
trip to and from the Yorks Yanks Club meet just outside Hull.
The fuel light was on when I put fifty quids worth of regular at
£1.31 per litre in Hartlepool. The fuel light was on when I
pulled off the A19 coming home!

If thats what it was like in mothers 2.4 Volvo V70 T5 estate I
wonder what it will be like in a 3.3 Neon?

And I screwed myself up doing the trip, I spent Monday in bed on
painkillers suffering from the side effects of the painkillers
made matters worse. Probably made worse by the fact I haven't
driven as far in a long time. I need another day or two to be
back up to even think about doing anything.

[Mitsuru]

Just been told the front end lpg kit has been collected from the seller.
So that means delivery sometime in the next few days.

Mother pulled a blinder today, she came across what was left of a
stainless steel pedal bin, it looks unused but a bit battered. The main
tube/body is mostly undented. Although it is a bit thin bit of stainless
metal sheet, but I might be able to use it to make a bit of an
underskirt to stop stuff going up the front of the engine and to give a
bit of protection for the serpentine belt run.

Shame it wasn't a drum off a washing machine, as that would have
been better as it is thicker. But never look a gift horse in the mouth!

The temperature has dropped and it's started snowing here again, YUCK!

[Mitsuru]

Well the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) the British
version of the USA's DMV sent me a nice little reminder that my
SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) Certificate runs out at the
end of this month.

So a couple of minutes online and that has been renewed for
another year just incase I don't get the old girl back on the road
by the end of the month(which is very likely due to the weather).

I messed up one side of the adapter plug so I will need to start
again with another old ecu to remove the plug. As luck would
have it I managed to find a guy on ebay who had a few. So I
have one coming for a grand total of £15.00.

The LPG kit still hasn't arrived I have sent an email to the seller
asking for tracking or delivery details.

Someone has had a go at mothers car, before I went down to
Hull for the car club meet, they had tried to remover the front
indicator and may have had a go at the headlight too.
All replacement parts ordered but not delivered yet.

[Mitsuru]

The £15 neon ecu arrived yesterday. Dad has been moving stuff
around on the drive again. So when he took a break I got the
grinder out and made a couple of cuts to chop the ecu in two.

I only need the socket end, the rest went in the trailer with the
other rubbish to be taken to the skips next week. Doing it this
way saves me a lot of time and hassle by not having to hack the
protective rubber out just to get the circuit board and socket out.





I'll remove the socket and clean that but up tonight, and start to
de-solder and remove what is left of the circuit board. I have
hopefully learned my lessons from the mistakes made on the
previous socket.

[Mitsuru]

After the weekend of the parents moving stuff around on the drive
and washing the dirt from it, the dirt grease and grime ended up
on Christine!

This ment she had to be washed down before the car freezes over
an it ends up being like wet and dry sandpaper on the old girl. The
wind was a direct wind from the north straight off the North sea,
and you could see the sleet or snow blow past missing my Village,
and hitting Hartlepool the town just down the coast.

The front bumper has been popped back on so it doesn'r get blown
down the garden again.



As of 6pm Monday 11th of February, I have not yet received the front
end lpg kit which I bought off ebay. I have sent an email to the seller
again requesting information on the parcel(tracking detail etc)

[Mitsuru]

Okay shortly after posting my last post the seller of the LPG kit
emailed me the tracking number for the parcel.

Timestamp............. Description
07/02/2013 13:47:00.. Collection Requested
08/02/2013 04:13:00.. Collection Scheduled
08/02/2013 13:34:00.. Collected
09/02/2013 13:09:00.. In Transit

So it should be here sometime this week.

[Mitsuru]

According to the courier the parcel containing the LPG kit should be here
from the 13th to 15th . So I wasn't feeling well and meds weren't working,
so I thought it would be okay to sleep in a little. Boy was I wrong!!

The parcel was half sticking out of one of the re-cycle bins, so if anyone
looked around the corner they could have seen this and possibly stolen
the parcel!!

If some delivery drivers had a brain cell it would surely die of loneliness!!



A bit of packing cardboard






Here is the vaporiser for the kit!! I swear that the Zavoli kit which I have
taken off the neon which was for the 4 cylinder engine was at least twice
the size of this thing!



And some of the details of the LPG management unit. I have emailed the
manufacturer with all the details to ask for a copy of the correct installation
manual saying
"it is original to the car I just purchased and it looks like someone has had
a go at it and I wish to reinstate it to full use!"

Yes I know it's not totally true but the kit was originally fitted to a BMW.