Early Javelin Restoration

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Grumpy Northener
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#61 Post by Grumpy Northener »

The inner frame was tackled at the same time with the same kit and just requires a few areas of soda blasting in the hard to get to spots
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The doors are all very solid and require little work and no welding however, the door gaps are large enough to drive a bus through in some areas and in others so tight that they take the paint off the apperture - a lot of this is down to poor hanging / poor adjustment and lots of wear on the central door hinges where both the front & rear door are hung from
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Has can be seen from the above some clown had layered loads of pug over a scrape in the panel and was too lazy to remove the inner door panel and panel-beat the scrape to ensure that the damage just required a skim of filler to correct it.
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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arceye
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#62 Post by arceye »

You're doing a lovely job, I was nosying around the one that is slumbering in my neighbours garage a few weeks back and was surprised by just how solidly built these are.

I think the one next door is around 1950, (he reckons its just prior to them getting larger headlights?) and the general substantial and apparent thickness of the steel really impressed me.

Keep up the good work :)
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#63 Post by JPB »

arceye wrote:You're doing a lovely job, I was nosing around the one that is slumbering in my neighbours garage a few weeks back and was surprised by just how solidly built these are.

I think the one next door is around 1950, (he reckons its just prior to them getting larger headlights?) and the general substantial and apparent thickness of the steel really impressed me.

Keep up the good work :)
That wouldn't by any chance be a light blue, Glasgow registered one would it? (Reg letters EGG).
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#64 Post by arceye »

Can't remember the reg just now John and there isn't actually a lot of colour left on the car or its under dust but I think it's a darker colour, next time I see him out and about I'll see if I can find out a little more.

The fella hails from Glasgow originally, though probably 50 years back, he's had it a fair while though it once being in regular use for him and his wife so it could well be from that neck of the woods.
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#65 Post by Grumpy Northener »

You're doing a lovely job, I was nosying around the one that is slumbering in my neighbours garage a few weeks back and was surprised by just how solidly built these are. I think the one next door is around 1950, (he reckons its just prior to them getting larger headlights?) and the general substantial and apparent thickness of the steel really impressed me.
Arceye - I have to say that given what you are acheiving on your Riley with limited kit & budget is equally impressive. If the Javelin is 1950 it will have 5 1/2" headlamps and be the early car - which is more rare than the later de lux model which had 7" headlamps ablit not worth any more money though.
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#66 Post by Grumpy Northener »

So now we have a plan for bare metaling the bodyshell & panels - any panel with several layers of paint will be stripped with paint stripper then completed with the poly carbon disc fitted to the angle grinder. Chassis & underside will be grit blasted and finer detailed areas shall be soda blasted - this way we can control the quality of the work ablit it may take longer but at least we are not repairing damage that we have paid others to undertake by having the panels distorted by blasting or the new paint effected by chemical residue. Chassis & box sections shall be treated with a rust treatment (the Rustbuster stuff looks impressive) and shall be sprayed with a cavity wax once the car is painted. Has part of of the never ending list of kit required for the workshop I aquired a larger air compressor in a deal - turned out that the motor was dead so we had to purchase another - the pump was serviced and now installed, up & running. There was nothing wrong with the old compressor apart from it was based on a 50 litre tank
The old 50 litre air compressor which we shall hang on to for the smaller jobs
The old 50 litre air compressor which we shall hang on to for the smaller jobs
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Having made the investment in new blasting kit (both grit & soda tanks) we needed the air volume to supply them
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New 150 litre air compressor (soda blaster alongside)
New 150 litre air compressor (soda blaster alongside)
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#67 Post by Grumpy Northener »

Taking into account lead times we were mindfull of advancing other areas that would require attention - Jack had sorted out the chome in what could go straight for rechoming, what required repair and what we were missing
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Whilst the front bumper required a little work to take the twist out of it the rear was in a proper state - Keith through his 40 year association with Jowetts has collected no end of stuff and among his collection were another 2 rear bumpers for the early car - one was in the same state as the one off the car and the other not as bad but still required some work.
Kieth applies heat to the seized bumper stud - which still sheared
Kieth applies heat to the seized bumper stud - which still sheared
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I rewelded a new stud to the bumper but still need to strighten it up a little more
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

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We sorted through what over riders for the bumpers that we had - choice of six
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All require some straightening up - Keith cut the mounting plates out of the rear of them so that I can have a go at getting them something like
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The mounting plates will require rewelding once I have them straight - hopefully I can do this with the TIG and keep any distortion to a minimum
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#69 Post by Grumpy Northener »

Meanwhile on the front nearside
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Looks ok at first sight but I know that tin worm loves the area where the air tube meets the inner wing on the Javelin
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lots of rust and very thin metal
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#70 Post by Grumpy Northener »

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I reused the patten that was used for the offside
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New repair section fabricated
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Area cut back to sound metal
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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