breakdown truck

[GHT]

Who remembers the scrappage scheme? The scrappage scheme was initially introduced because new car sales in 2008 were so poor, and it was hoped that these incentives would stimulate new cars sales in a depressed market. It clearly worked, and sales remained largely buoyant, and failed to crash as they did in mainland Europe. But there was a price to pay. Among the victims of the scheme were 88 Citroën 2CVs, 81 Morris Minors and 45 Jaguar XJ-Ss. In total 392,227 cars more than a decade old were culled that year.

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It says that 392,227 cars were more than a decade old. I thought that the whole point of the exercise was to stimulate new car sales. Why the lament over scrapping older cars? You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Apart from that, wasn't there some sort of scheme to flog as many potential classics to those in the trade that deal in the vintage end of the market? And if a model is drastically reduced in number because of such a cull, it can only mean an increase in value for those who have held on to their model, I would have thought.

[TerryG]

Why didn't you scrap your MG in favour of a new Honda Civic?

I don't particularly care if someone decides to sell or scrap their older car, I objected to the scheme on the grounds of MY money being used to prop up car manufacturers that have a lousy business model and couldn't survive in a declining market.
The same as I objected to MY money being used to prop up banks for the same reason.

If your business is so poor it can't survive a recession it should fail.

[GHT]

Why didn't you scrap your MG in favour of a new Honda Civic?

I don't particularly care if someone decides to sell or scrap their older car, I objected to the scheme on the grounds of MY money being used to prop up car manufacturers that have a lousy business model and couldn't survive in a declining market.
The same as I objected to MY money being used to prop up banks for the same reason.

If your business is so poor it can't survive a recession it should fail.

I hit a nerve there, didn't I. To be honest I'm in total agreement with you, however, as it gets into the realms of politics, and I know that politics are usually banned, I avoided the political issue. If I can take you up on a few things, carefully, so as not to tread on political toes. I would rather walk home in the rain than be seen in a Honda Civic. I wouldn't even want a free one. And not just Honda Civics, there's not enough space to list all the Euroboxes that damage my eyes.
Political decisions with tax payers money have been a bone of contention since taxes were dreamed up. I agree that an ailing business shouldn't be bailed out by the taxpayer, but what's the alternative. And, governments have often had a hand in the detriment of the company/companies in trouble. Take the South Wales steel that the taxpayer is about to bail out. It was our government along with EU governments, that allowed China to dump subsidised, cheap steel here, the result being the bottom dropped out of our own steel market. It's just one example, and although it sticks in the craw, I would rather see business and companies rescued, it can be done, Rolls Royce in 1971, even with mine and many others taxes, than I would ever like to live through the kind of great depression that occurred in the 1930's.
Best draw a line under it Terry, it's a great forum this, I wouldn't want to rock any boats.

[rich.]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/19186700 ... rmvSB=true
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... ign=buying
https://www.leboncoin.fr/jardinage/8742 ... tm?ca=12_s

[JPB]

How f'n much? Hice like that tend to go for around £160-170K around here. Could be worse though, that would be close to a million if it were within the M25. Nice place all the same, and enough space to pressure wash the Dulux off the poor Reliant Robin which - IMHO - would look better in its original Pageant Blue. Yes, I did just express a preference against the orange, must be getting old..

As an aside; supposing that you saw a particular vehicle listed on eBay and you knew for certain that the vehicle in question was blessed with a few upgrades and modifications that would make it worth much more than its vendor believes it is. Would you a) say nowt, buy the thing and flip it as soon as the ink on the new V5 is dry, making a big song and dance about the aforementioned upgrades which would make you a very nice extra few hundred for doing essentially nothing or b) send the vendor a PM via eBay or a web forum to inform him of the car's extra value to those in the know, thereby making him more than he'd otherwise realise for it and giving him a warm, fuzzy feeling about the whole thing?
I need a MK1 Robin like I need a turnip in my bed, but sometimes, the important thing to do is make sure that a very special bit of kit doesn't fall into the wrong hands..

I favour the third way: Give the link to a third party and get her to do the bidding with her own eBay account.

That other thing, is it a Dalek without its bodywork?

[rich.]

as for the robin, ive seen a starsky & hutch style paint job on one in cinderford & anything that isnt painted in fools & horses paintjob has to be an improvement.. the naked dalek is actually a leaf vacuum thing why?
& the house belongs to my nephew & is so expensive as its been built in gods country, in the town of cinderford which was once voted britains dirtiest town.. but i still love the forest of dean.. back to the robin, have you bought it yet

[Luxobarge]

the naked dalek is actually a leaf vacuum thing

Indeed - it's a "Billy Goat" garden vacuum. That looks like quite an old version, we have one here, it has a 6.5 hp Briggs & Stratton and is a great piece of kit - self-propelled, it's like a big hoover, great for clearing up the garden. We have over 100 trees in the garden and when the leaves fall believe me, you're not wanting to rake them up by hand, something with a little petrol power is called for!

Didn't know they had them in France though, wow, something we export to them!

[JPB]

..We have over 100 trees in the garden..

That's an impressive tree count. I'm not good with trees, having had three when I moved into my present home and then having lost two of them within a year of each other. One was stolen, I accidentally murdered the other with the anchor cable of my jockey winch.

[rich.]

the naked dalek is actually a leaf vacuum thing

Indeed - it's a "Billy Goat" garden vacuum. That looks like quite an old version, we have one here, it has a 6.5 hp Briggs & Stratton and is a great piece of kit - self-propelled, it's like a big hoover, great for clearing up the garden. We have over 100 trees in the garden and when the leaves fall believe me, you're not wanting to rake them up by hand, something with a little petrol power is called for!

Didn't know they had them in France though, wow, something we export to them!

you would be surprised what gets exported! meanwhile i just use the mower to pick up leaves around here.... not that im lazy
meanwhile in the land of bay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wartburg-knig ... 1953997729

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Cortina- ... 1583380738

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-of ... 1979269104

best use ever for a land rover, next to coke cans...

[JPB]

"Upcycled?" What a load of pretentious bollocks!