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Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:55 pm
by vulgalour
Today, the Princess was being used to tootle over to Lubenham which is just off J20 of the M1 for a Triumph Club open day. All was well, no issues of note at all, but about 30 miles from our destination the temp gauge suddenly jumped up from the usual 1/2 to 3/4. I backed off and the temperature dropped a bit but the car didn't seem too bad. We pulled off at Leicester Forest East just for a loo break and I popped the bonnet just in case.

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The thermostat housing had a bit of steam coming from it and had overflowed. At first I thought the bodge of chemical metal had failed and it had just dumped all the water out again.
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But popping off the oil filler cap proved otherwise. I'd checked the water and oil a couple of days ago and there was no mayonnaise or warning that anything was amiss.
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We filled the expansion tank and started the car to see what would happen. Lots of water and steam out the exhaust was about the result of that and the gauge rising steadily. That proved conclusively that it was a head gasket failure.
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Thankfully, back in February I signed up for AA membership and today was the first time I've ever had to make use of it. The first AA thing to arrive was a van and I laughed when the driver suggested we might be able to put K-seal in, and then he laughed when he saw the contents of the oil filler. He didn't have the relevant A-frame* with him so we waited for a big lorry to take us home instead.
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Tonight I spent my last bit of cash on 4ltrs of oil. I'll get the head off, check it for level and use the stuff I bought to do the HLS head on the HL instead now. The only thing I need to acquire is some engine flush to clean out the gunk and I can borrow the relevant stem seal tool so that can be done at the same time.

It's a frustrating set back, but it will allow me to get the engine in tip top health, something I was putting off until the Spring as I'll likely have to do this job in the street as I don't have enough driveway space to use.

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:28 pm
by TerryG
That's a bit of a bummer, look at it as a practice run for the other car. Fingers crossed you get all the bolts out easily and can do the job in an afternoon :)

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:59 pm
by mach1rob
Oh bugger! :cry: On the plus side, the old O series is pretty easy to swap, so fingers crossed you'll have no bother and it'll all go swimmingly :)

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:43 pm
by JPB
These words:
mach1rob wrote:Oh bugger! :cry: On the plus side, the old O series is pretty easy to swap, so fingers crossed you'll have no bother and it'll all go swimmingly :)
Yes! And slap whoever refaced the head last time, unless that was done by a relative or a close mate, in which case a mild rebuke will do.

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:50 pm
by TerryG
On a side note, are head gaskets ever a service item? ie do they have a service life?

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:10 am
by vulgalour
Previous-previous owner bodges would not surprise me. I seem to have spent my entire ownership chasing bad maintenance and neglect. Anything I've put right seems to have stayed put right, anything that a previous owner has 'fixed' I've had to refix. As far as I know, head gaskets don't have a set mileage and I've heard that sometimes one wasn't fitted from new because that's the way British Leyland did things. There's evidence of siliconing on the engine which I've already undone some of so I wouldn't be surprised if when I lift the head off it's just got a silicone sealant gasket instead of a proper gasket.

Big issue at the moment is that I'm completely unable to find the torque wrench, which is pretty integral to putting it all back together again.

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:55 am
by kevin
vulgalour wrote:Previous-previous owner bodges would not surprise me. I seem to have spent my entire ownership chasing bad maintenance and neglect. Anything I've put right seems to have stayed put right, anything that a previous owner has 'fixed' I've had to refix. As far as I know, head gaskets don't have a set mileage and I've heard that sometimes one wasn't fitted from new because that's the way British Leyland did things. There's evidence of siliconing on the engine which I've already undone some of so I wouldn't be surprised if when I lift the head off it's just got a silicone sealant gasket instead of a proper gasket.

Big issue at the moment is that I'm completely unable to find the torque wrench, which is pretty integral to putting it all back together again.

where abouts in the country are you?
if you are local enough i have one you can borrow or if not im sure another member is close?

kev

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:26 pm
by vulgalour
It's okay, I found the torque wrench. I'm not being very good at getting started on this job today though.

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:18 pm
by mach1rob
TerryG wrote:On a side note, are head gaskets ever a service item? ie do they have a service life?
Rover suggested the K series HG should be ;)

Re: Austin Morris Princess X2

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:09 pm
by TerryG
I thought that was done to limit the life of the entire car that way you had to buy a new one every few months ;)