1965 singer vogue recomission

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harvey
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#111 Post by harvey »

I can remember someone I knew buying a damaged Sceptre the same shape and year as yours, sometime in the mid to late 70s, and it was considered an old car then even though it was only just over 10 years old at the time. Most people thought he was a bit mad tbh, but it was such a clean car that it was well worth repairing. IIRC he even got some of the new panels from a Main Stealer. It wouldn't surprise me if he still had it, although thinking about it, the car might be about somewhere, I doubt if he is... There certainly wouldn't have been many in daily use in the 80s.
Currently over 35 years worth of fixing 35 boxes.
Hoping to reach 65 years worth of fixing 65 boxes.
kevin
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#112 Post by kevin »

Not done anything at all this week as i felt really fatigued, (been promoted to construction director in work so steep learning curve and loads of training courses take their toll).
Had an easy day yesterday (sat) so i was up early this morning and raring to go.
Been really struggling to get the braking system finished. The new lockheed remote servo was significantly different to the girling unit that was previously fitted so i more or less had to start from square one.
As with a lot of jobs that we do, sometimes a break from them is all thats needed to get things to drop into place and this was just so today.
Finished off making the new brackets, trial mounted everything then blasted them and painted them up. once dry got them remounted and completed.
i was quite worried about the brake pipe fitting but this proved easy enough, ive used the existing pipes for now until i get some new pipe but they served to make sure all works fine..got a great brake :D
bought a new tool which helped doing the pipework

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Made bending and shaping the pipework a doddle.

Whilst i was refurbing the cylinders and calipers i was never happy with the function of the bleed nipples fitted, they were some form of speed bleeder i think but just didnt seem to make bleeding an easy task, so i spoke with powertrax and ordered 3 new nipples and covers.

Fitted them today along with a smear of copper grease on the threads and they do work a lot better. Now the servo is fitted i flushed the whole system once again with fresh fluid just to make sure all the contamination is out of the system.

These are the new and old nipples.

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So, this week i will get the chrome trim etc stripped off the front end ready to start the paint prep. Once the grill is off, i will strip the radiator out to flush and paint, I have all new water hoses ready to fit and i will take advantage of the improved access to take the dynamo and starter off to give them a quick check over. I have a new dynamo belt to fit as well.
All in all a great, productive day,

Kev
kevin
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#113 Post by kevin »

Had a hectic few weeks in work due to promotion coupled with a glut of very heavy training. Pottered in the garage yesterday and had a few hours in there today.
Got all the necessary chrome stripped off and stored safely so apart from taking the front screen out she is ready for paint prep (need to order the screen seal as well).
Took the airfilter housing off and its currently soaking in an electrolysis bath to get all the crudy aluminium paint off. Next weekend it will be dried and blasted before a nice couple of coats of black gloss. That will make a nice difference in the engine bay.
Hopefully the wheels are coming off this week to have the tyres taken off, they will then go off to be powder coated. got the new tyres (with a thin whitewall strip) waiting to be fitted.
I will order the antifreeze this week and then drop the radiator out and flush the whole system. I have ordered and new thermostat and already have the new hose set in stock. I want to take my time with this process so i can clean and lubricate all the old jubilee clips for reuse, This will retain a bit of patina i think.
Just had an email from the assessor of this weeks examinations. Seems the 160 mile per day round trip and mind numbing lectures for 8 hours a day have paid off and i have passed the exams so with that in mind i am off for a bath and a bottle of coors.
mach1rob
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#114 Post by mach1rob »

kevin wrote:Seems the 160 mile per day round trip and mind numbing lectures for 8 hours a day have paid off and i have passed the exams so with that in mind i am off for a bath and a bottle of coors.
Congrats :thumbs: :mrgreen:
kevin
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#115 Post by kevin »

Had a few hours in the garage tonight.
Started to strip the cooling system down for a good flush out, check over and new hoses.
The radiator came out and looks fine, not too much crud floating about either. so that will get flushed and painted.
Decided that in the aim of reducing stupid mechanical failures, I would remove the water pump to inspect, paint up and fit a new gasket. All came off easily and it is in great condition so that will be cleaned, painted and refitted.
Took the thermostat housing off, removed the stat as I have a new new to fit, no crud in there either, so I think a bit of time with a hose pipe and then a few fills and refills with clean water will see the system nice and clean.
I will take the opportunity of increased access to remove the dynamo to clean and inspect it, repaint and refit if its ok, along with a new drive belt and some copper slip on the adjusters to aid future maintenance.

When I first got the vogue I noticed a chrome chain fitted below the dash.

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never made sense what it was for but I didnt bother looking too hard.
as i started to strip things off tonight I realised that in front of the radiator was a metal frame with a roller blind type rad muff! how ingenious!!
not a great picture but it works well still.

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All in all a great night.

kev
tractorman
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#116 Post by tractorman »

At least you didn't do what my late father did with the old Herald in the late 60's - "Ah, a chain, I'll pull it and see what happens." It took a few minutes before the engine overheated (and later blew the head gasket)!

He also found a switch in the glove box on a rented Beetle when we moved up to Carlisle (in about 1954/5). Mother was driving when the engine cut out. It took an AA patrolman to work out what the switch did...

I only know that story because he found a switch in the Herald's glove box when Ma was driving (again). She wouldn't let him touch that - a good thing too - it did the same job! Goodness only knows what would happen if he'd been around with the Golf - with all the clever little switches on the indicator stalk!
mach1rob
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#117 Post by mach1rob »

The AA Book of the Car has a feature on how to fit said blind too IIRC.
kevin
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#118 Post by kevin »

Finished cleaning, degreasing and painting all the cooling system stuff inc the radiator, so that is everything ready to reassemble next week. Just waiting for a couple of additional original jubilee hose clips to arrive before i start.
I was hoping to reuse the existing hose clips, but to be honest, they were a mixed bag of assortments, so I decided to go for function over aesthetics and buy a set of original jubilee clips for the system. The main advantage is I have a proper jubilee clip tool for fitting them, makes the job quite easy and saves slipping with a screwdriver etc. Along with new hoses, they should help reduce the amount of stupid mechanical failures.
Whilst the radiator etc is out, I took advantage of the increased access, to remove and check/paint the dynamo.
That was a pig of a job due to needing a spanner on the back of the fixing bolts to keep the nut still. Managed to get it all off and its in great condition so rubbed it down and sprayed it up.
Had a quick look at the dynamo mounting bracket and decided that in order to make future maintenance a tad easier I would weld some captive nuts on it, making the adjustment a single spanner operation.

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Kev
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#119 Post by tractorman »

I would have expected the front mount on the dynamo to have been threaded and you would put the bolt through from the bracket side and have a lock nut on the back of it. The rear hole was just a plain clearance hole, with an ordinary but and bolt. I know they are a pain on almost all vehicles (even tractors!), that's all part of the fun!
kevin
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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission

#120 Post by kevin »

Done a few more hours today.
Cleaned every surface ready for reassembling of the cooling system this week. Loosened all the remaining hose clips and pulled the hoses off and then replaced them so i know where everything goes! Just need the jubilee clips to arrive tomorrow.
whilst the rebuild of the cooling system has stalled, awaiting parts, i took the time to unplug the various electrical connectors about the engine bay..ignition coil, electronic ignition etc, clean the connectors and apply some CONTRALUBE 770 before reconnecting, hopefully that will fend off the gremlins.
I also took the opportunity to hoover all the various crevices about the engine bay and front end, removing old leaves, cobwebs and other debris. once nice and clean i applied some dinitrol 1000 to them, inc all of the front suspension member.
There was a thick electrical wire floating about the back of the engine bay, nothing wrong with that but it didnt look very original or neat. had a gander at it and it was the feed for the passenger side spot light. Stripped it out and re-wired that lamp, but this time took the wire along the front end, under the radiator support panel and clipped in place with some period type cable clips. Much neater and cant actually be seen.
So, if the jubilee clips turn up tomorrow I will get the radiator back in, fit all the new hoses and that will be the car done and ready to have the bonnet, boot lid and wing tops painted over christmas :D
Oh, forgot, got the 5 rims booked in to be powder coated on january 6th..already got the tyres.

Kev :D
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