this a fly in the ointment! Petrol & diesel cars banned by 2040

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this a fly in the ointment! Petrol & diesel cars banned by 2040

#1 Post by Mitsuru » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:16 am

Petrol and diesel cars banned from UK roads by 2040

The sale of petrol and diesel cars will end in 2040 - with a new tax on diesel drivers from 2020.

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#2 Post by GHT » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:22 am

Oh I don't know. Necessity is the mother of invention.
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#3 Post by JPB » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:13 am

Spraying Greenland with high density poly peanuts to reflect the sunlight away from that black algae that's been all across the news would work, apparently.
Fossil fuels being banned by 2040 could work if hydrogen outlets became more common - just now fuel cell vehicles can only be refuelled in a handful of places across the UK, more would set aside range anxiety and suddenly, we'd forget that we ever had such a concern. Win!

However, this "news" story is designed to alarm social media's sans-culottes crowd and besides, this disturbing image makes more sense than the story itself, IMHO:

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#4 Post by megadethmaniac » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:02 pm

does this mean electric only cars? or will the push be to hybreds?

The evans on radio 2 was suggesting that this is a scheme to ensure purchase of cars as projected life of cars is increasing and otherwise there would be little need for new cars in 20 years as there would be a glut of used vehicles that would remain perfectly roadworthy.

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#5 Post by Penguin45 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:14 pm

Kill all cattle. Problem solved.

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#6 Post by harvey » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:28 pm

Penguin45 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:14 pm
Kill all cattle. Problem solved.

Where's the tax revenue in that?
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#7 Post by suffolkpete » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:43 pm

All these policies are formulated on the hoof by politicians with degrees in politics and law. Here's a few practicalities to consider.
1. The quoted ranges are measured in the laboratories and vehicles are designed to give optimum results on the test cycle. Real world ranges will be less, maybe a lot less. If you look at the specifications for electric vehicles, the battery capacities are only sufficient for 20-30 minutes at full power, for example the Nissan Leaf has a 30kWh battery and a 66kW motor, that's about 27 minutes.
2. If battery capacities are increased to give more range, then the charging time will increase proportionately because the charging current remains the same, in the same way that a bigger petrol tank takes longer to fill.
3. What will happen to the electricity network when everybody arrives home from their commute, puts their EVs on charge, their dinner in the oven (probably electric by then) and settles down in front of Eastenders?
4. How will people without off-street parking cope?
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#8 Post by GHT » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:58 pm

suffolkpete wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:43 pm
How will people without off-street parking cope?
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#9 Post by suffolkpete » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:44 am

GHT wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:58 pm
suffolkpete wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:43 pm
How will people without off-street parking cope?
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My thousandth post!! Do you really think enough infrastructure will be provided for every car that needs to be parked on-street overnight? The nightmare scenario is that the unfortunate will be cruising round looking for a charging point until the battery goes flat. Also, the vehicle manufacturers can't agree on a standard, so you have to find a point that is compatible with your car.
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Re: this a fly in the ointment! Petrol & diesel cars banned by 2040

#10 Post by rich. » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:48 am

i recently did several trips of up to 750 km in a day.. i will need a very long extension lead... :lol:

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