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Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#1 Post by Luxobarge » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:44 am

Hi chaps,

A local friend of mine (young lady) is thinking of buying this 1969 Morris 1100 (ADO16):

http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C867258

BTW I'm told that the MoT date is a mistake, it's actually valid until January 2018.

Any thoughts?

Is it worth the price? (assume we can haggle a couple of hundred off)

Things to look out for when they view it? (I've already stressed the importance of checking for no rust etc. and working level Hydrolastic suspension)

Advice?

Information?

Her and her boyfriend are going to look at it on Thursday 22nd, so I'll pass on any pearls of wisdom to them before then.

My personal view is that it looks good, she needs a practical car that she can confidently run around in locally and that is easy and safe to drive, I reckon you'd struggle to do much better than one of these, I love 'em.

Many thanks one and all!
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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#2 Post by JPB » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:30 am

The test expires on the 9th of february, recent tests have shown only relatively minor stuff but in 2013, it failed on both front and rear subframe mounts which were excessively corroded so check that it doesn't crab, that the welding was completed properly, IE by replacing the heelboard end sections with parts that include the captive threads or by replacing the heelboard right across the car, same checks apply to the mounts in the front footwells as these aren't quite so easy to get in the right place, especially if the corrosion was bad enough to affect the metal around the mounts to the point where the alignment could have been compromised.

If its repairs were completed correctly, then that should be worth around £2700-£3000 depending upon which way the wind's blowing on the day, but even the show standard cars are struggling to bring in more than that in the real - as opposed to the internet based - world these days.
Have a good feel up behind the front wings forward of the trumpet sections' joint to the A posts and the inner wing and, if all of that is good, then the chances are it's a good one. Hydrolastic is pretty reliable, only the later Hydragas is consistently rubbish by comparison. OK, so Hydragas is better damped but at least Hydrolastic is comfortable and rusty pipes, etc. can be spotted at service time and sorted before one side goes down, whereas most Hydragas cars' suspension faults were sudden and gave no warning beyond the odd hard displacer - you'll not get that with the older system.

Worth considering for sure, here's the test history, complete with the obligatory advisory on the transverse A series oil leak, I'm thinking gearshift oil seal but do these have removeable tappet chest plates?...

Registration number: SJG938H


Vehicle make MORRIS Vehicle model 1100 Date first used 26 September 1969 Fuel type Petrol Colour Beige


MOT history of this vehicle

Test date 1 February 2017 Expiry date 9 February 2018 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 35,329 miles MOT test number 1567 3197 9554 Advisory notice item(s)
Oil leak ()

Test date 26 January 2016 Expiry date 9 February 2017 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 33,180 miles MOT test number 1232 6256 2960 Advisory notice item(s)
oil leak
o/s/r tyre cracking on the inner wall

Test date 10 February 2015 Expiry date 9 February 2016 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 31,162 miles MOT test number 3455 1164 5019

Test date 15 June 2013 Expiry date 14 June 2014 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 31,154 miles MOT test number 6193 3636 3170 Advisory notice item(s)
Offside Front Brake hose slightly deteriorated (3.6.B.4d)
brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Rear Sub-frame corroded but not seriously weakened (2.4.G.1)

Test date 13 June 2013 Test Result Fail Odometer reading 31,149 miles MOT test number 9854 2416 3192 Reason(s) for failure
Nearside Front Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Nearside Rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Offside Rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Advisory notice item(s)
Offside Front Brake hose slightly deteriorated (3.6.B.4d)
brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Rear Sub-frame corroded but not seriously weakened (2.4.G.1)
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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#3 Post by Luxobarge » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:55 am

Top man John, just what I was looking for.

Cheers!
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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#4 Post by rich. » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:50 pm

Have you bought it yet?

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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#5 Post by Luxobarge » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:44 pm

rich. wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:50 pm
Have you bought it yet?
Luxobarge wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:44 am
Her and her boyfriend are going to look at it on Thursday 22nd........
Pay attention at the back there.... ;)

I'll let you know what happens mate!
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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#6 Post by rich. » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:52 am

Luxobarge wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:44 pm
rich. wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:50 pm
Have you bought it yet?
Luxobarge wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:44 am
Her and her boyfriend are going to look at it on Thursday 22nd........
Pay attention at the back there.... ;)

I'll let you know what happens mate!
Sorry sir.. mobile phone and no glasses...

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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#7 Post by Luxobarge » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:27 am

They didn't buy it - the seller was not willing to negotiate, and was reluctant to provide evidence of the rust repairs etc. Their decision, not mine!

They are still looking for a good ADO16 Morris or Austin 1100 or 1300 though, so if anyone finds one or knows of one let me know!

Cheers & thanks for the help. :D
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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#8 Post by JPB » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:58 am

Sounds like your friends made a good decision. The ADO16 is still available in rust-free, preserved condition and often for less than the asking price for that example so somewhere out there is the right car. These things are obviously becoming harder to find in really nice condition, but they're not yet so rare that a potential buyer would have to grab the first one they looked at, rather than not buying any.
I rarely have my eyes out of the classic car press ("research" for work if anyone asks :oops: ..), so I'll keep 'em peeled and let you know if something that I see should happen to stand out, starting with the following example and yes, I realise that you specified Morris or Austin, but read on, this one may be well worth considering:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1966-WOLSELEY ... 2225782303


It's recently recommissioned after a 12 year sabbatical, the seller admits that there's a spot of leather repair needed but if I were near the south coast, I'd have a blast along the M4 to check it out. Being the Wolseley, it has slightly more luxurious interior stuff and twin carbs at that age, though ISTR that later Wolseleys made do with a single. Trafalgar blue always presents well and the price is reasonable as these upmarket models can fetch a good few pounds more, it's also low on mileage, has had the braking system repaired as required and the only other fail point was on the old tyres, all now addressed and no advisories to worry about..




MOT history of this vehicle

Test date 30 March 2017 Expiry date 29 March 2018 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 40,782 miles MOT test number 1821 1340 3014

Test date 8 March 2017 Test Result Fail Odometer reading 40,078 miles MOT test number 6180 9028 1087 Reason(s) for failure
Service brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7)
Rear Brakes imbalanced across an axle Axle 2 (3.7.B.5b)
Nearside Front Tyre has a cut in excess of the requirements deep enough to reach the ply or cords (4.1.D.1a)
Offside Front Tyre has a cut in excess of the requirements deep enough to reach the ply or cords (4.1.D.1a)
Nearside front brake binding (3.7.B.1)
Offside front brake binding (3.7.B.1)


Go on, get your friend back in the saddle, this may or may not be a better proposition but I suspect that this one may vanish soon if it's as good as it appears.
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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

#9 Post by Luxobarge » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:39 pm

Thanks John - I've passed that one on with my recommendation to view it - looks like an altogether better proposition to me.

Keep 'em coming, if you spot any more!

Cheers,

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Re: Morris 1100 1969 - thoughts?

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