I've been Toyota shopping.

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I've been Toyota shopping.

#1 Post by JPB » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:31 pm

:oops:
So, last time I posted about the then-planned Minor auto conversion and the ongoing quest for suitable Datsun-sourced parts, I was contacted by someone locally who, when he's not stalking me on the internets, has been gaining experience of converting Toyota's compact, light(ish), strong and very, very sweet 4A-F, 4A-G and similar engines to run in RWD cars using the AW131 automatic gearbox internals fitted into a different casing from the original, combined FWD arrangement found in however many million Corollas they've built by now and naturally, I listened because there are many more automatic Toyotas around than there are 120Ys, so all I had to do was buy a donor car, remove the parts required and sell on whatever was left to someone who'd recently totalled their own Toyota.
So this one fell from the sky and landed right by me so I bought it:

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Well obviously, because it turned out to be far, far better in every conceivable way than I'd dared to expect it to be, I couldn't take it apart, so the Minor, including all of its accumulated parts, went to someone who'd expressed an interest in taking it on as a stock restoration and the 2013 MK7 Glof is going back to its supplying dealer on Tuesday, the plan being to use the Liftback as a modern car and why not? After all, it drives at least as well as any other newish car and came with a complete service history from day one, is totally free from rust and every single square inch of bodywork that isn't visible from outside is caked with something clear and sticky topside - Looks a lot like Ensis V - and something equally clear but even stickier - possibly a Dinitrol product, possibly a different Ensis - in the engine bay, under the floors and inside the rear quarters all over the suspension turrets and spare wheel well.
So unless anyone has any rigid objection to stuff relating to a car that's only 25 years old and looks just like a modernish car, I'll be posting about how car and I get along in the coming months and years.
So far, apart from a sunroof that won't open, which was declared by the seller, only some very tiny bumper scuffs and the odd equally minor paint scratch, nothing at all needs doing. Hmm, best let Heather borrow it, that should provoke something into falling off... 8-)
J
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#2 Post by harvey » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:53 pm

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They're very close to me, and been Toyota dealers for ever, so if it's made it to you, from here, with a few owners in between, it can't be bad.....
Currently over 35 years worth of fixing 35 boxes.
Hoping to reach 65 years worth of fixing 65 boxes.

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#3 Post by zipgun » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:59 pm

Oh yeah! Great buy ! I've just bought a :oops: , ahem... Suzuki Baleno... but i kept my gob shut coz it's embarassing ,a bit ... but nooooo rust anywhere ..unlike an eary Ford Focus :lol:

http://autoshite.com/topic/20559-low-mi ... ?hl=baleno

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#4 Post by TerryG » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:07 pm

My MK1 focus is probably going to need rear arches next year if I don't do them now but otherwise it's been good. If I was looking for a cheap modern I wouldn't hesitate to get another one.
Anyway, I can't think how long it's been since I saw one of those Toyotas, it's probably less common than a morris minor!
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.

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#5 Post by JPB » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:11 pm

harvey wrote:...

They're very close to me, and been Toyota dealers for ever, so if it's made it to you, from here, with a few owners in between, it can't be bad.....
Indeed so, Harvey. It's a low mileage car (just passed 70,000 as I was driving it home last night), has a full service history showing such things as a fresh cam belt 8,000 miles ago and service every 6 months even in the years when it only covered a couple of thousand miles in total and it still feels tight and willing, just like a modern car in fact which is - bizarrely - one of its major plus points for me. As is an original dealer sticker, and the equally original dealer plates.
I've already watched someone repairing the sunroof on one of these in a youtube video featuring the US-market, Neo branded version (only manual models were sold through Toyota in the States) and the task looks pretty straightforward if a little fiddly. The motor whirrs away happily enough but the roof panel doesn't move so a couple of steel P-clips, a soldering iron and an hour to remove the roof along with its frame will see the problem (99% likely to be cable clips that have come adrift from the cable ends) solved and then I can make sure it's closed properly and remove the fuse so that the problem never crops up again. :lol:

So far, it seems to be averaging around 34mpg but there's room to improve that, possibly by fitting a block of wood under the accelerator pedal. :oops: ;)
I'm in two minds about whether to steam clean the engine bay. It's filthy because the rustproofing products have been splashed around all over the inner wings, front cross member, bonnet slam panel and chassis legs, all of which has caused all manner of insect life to end in there, along with debris from the roads and rather bizarrely, half of a cat collar, with the elastic section still attached, which was found on top of the cross member, under the ATF cooler matrix. :?
J
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#6 Post by harvey » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:21 pm

JPB wrote: I'm in two minds about whether to steam clean the engine bay.
My advice: Don't.
Currently over 35 years worth of fixing 35 boxes.
Hoping to reach 65 years worth of fixing 65 boxes.

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#7 Post by JPB » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:23 pm

zipgun wrote:Oh yeah! Great buy ! I've just bought a :oops: , ahem... Suzuki Baleno... but i kept my gob shut coz it's embarassing ,a bit ... but nooooo rust anywhere ..unlike an eary Ford Focus :lol:

http://autoshite.com/topic/20559-low-mi ... ?hl=baleno
Nice, I should pop the pics up at AS, the Corolla probably fits there better than here.
TerryG wrote:My MK1 focus is probably going to need rear arches next year if I don't do them now but otherwise it's been good. If I was looking for a cheap modern I wouldn't hesitate to get another one.
Anyway, I can't think how long it's been since I saw one of those Toyotas, it's probably less common than a morris minor!
According to howmanyleft, there are around 300 1.6 GL executive autos remaining in England & Wales, roughly 200 of which are in use and road legal. Why so few I wonder?
And no, HML don't give rough figures but I went there a few days ago and can't be bothered to return for exact quantities. :lol:
harvey wrote:
JPB wrote: I'm in two minds about whether to steam clean the engine bay.
My advice: Don't.
And ordinarily, I wouldn't even have thought the thought, but it really is embarrassingly sticky under that shiny bonnet! OK, so small amounts of WD40 on a cloth and wipe the area slightly cleaner - using the hard work technique - it is then. :x ;)
J
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#8 Post by rich. » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:35 pm

:drool: :drool: :drool:
i do hope you will show this car john :D :thumbs: :thumbs:

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#9 Post by arceye » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:39 pm

Lovely little motor John :D

It seems odd to me that these days we don't seem to accept 25 year old cars as "classics", perhaps that is to do with the alteration to the historic vehicle tax class. I was running a 23 year old Viva when they changed the 25 year rolling concession to the fixed date, perhaps because I was younger the car seemed much older to me than a 20 something car does now.

In '96 I was running a '66 Ford Corsair and no one would have argued it wasn't a classic though it was "only" 30 years old. So please do keep posting about the car, I for one will enjoy reading about it.

I know we don't do the whats a classic thing here, but I'd say a 25 year old motor more than qualifies for inclusion on this site..

Just sayin like 8-) 8-)

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#10 Post by JPB » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:43 pm

rich. wrote: :drool: :drool: :drool:
i do hope you will show this car john :D :thumbs: :thumbs:
:shock:

It'll be in regular use throughout the year, but yes, it'll be bringing me to at least a handful of shows during the remainder of the season. Mind you, I won't be winning prizes any time soon, not unless they give out gongs for "cheekiest entry" or "best Steel Grey metallic 1990 Toyota Corolla Liftback 1600 GL Executive Automatic owned by a tall, slightly overweight bald man".

Arceye, I'd already written this next bit so decided to leave it in after reading your words:
Back in my Austin A40 days, the (then 19 year old) XJR40 (my reg plate, not some sort of fast Jaaaaag) was distinctly old fashioned compared to the then current Chevettes, MK2 Escorts and Chrysler Sunbeams, A40s were rarely seen even though Minors were still around in their tens of thousands and the A40 rusted really well, it was great as a device for turning solid steel into dust.
But now, even though the Corolla will be 25 years old on the 4th of December, it's not so different from a modern car, the only differences involve gadgets and poorer quality in the newer stuff. To drive the thing, only the incredibly low-geared (it has PAS, so why the several dozen turns between locks :?: ) steering makes it feel massively different from a newer car of similar type. That, and seeing the receipt that tells me how few pounds I paid for it.
8-)
arceye wrote:...So please do keep posting about the car, I for one will enjoy reading about it...
Cheers man, I'll take that as an instruction! Only trouble will be finding stuff to say as it seems unlikely that a 70,000 mile used Toyota should fail to remain reliable for many moons to come and although I might go for a set of 15" wheels with 195/50 tyres instead of the original alloys with the 175/70x13 rubber for daily use, removing and refitting wheels isn't the stuff of great literature.
;)
J
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