Sad reading
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Sad reading
Got this from another site, but a list has been published of all the cars scrapped in the 2009 scrappage scheme, some sad reading there when you consider that the car had to be roadworthy to qualify. I'm sure a significant number were on their last legs and days of their MOT but still. What's worse is think of the spare parts that have ben lost.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... me-in-2009
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... me-in-2009
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1965 Ford Anglia 106e Estate (Wagon). LHD.
1964 Ford Anglia 105e Saloon
1965 Ford Anglia 106e Estate (Wagon). LHD.
1964 Ford Anglia 105e Saloon
Re: Sad reading
It's linked from the PC facebook page too.
I only got as far as Audi Coupe Quattro before thinking "I was expecting a load of old rubbish, how can people have traded in these!"
I only got as far as Audi Coupe Quattro before thinking "I was expecting a load of old rubbish, how can people have traded in these!"
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Just giving it a quick look its enough to make you weep - I am not a big fan of the 80's classics but they still have there place - over 100 Metro's scrapped and its dire reading when you get to the Triumph's - 12 x Heralds, a Vittese, 3 x Stags, a handful of Dolomites, a Toledo, several TR7's & a TR8 !! What the hell were they thinking
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1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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I think this was 2 forum incarnations ago when it was going on but someone discovered a very smart mog in a yard close to where I was at the time. I went down and they wouldn't let me buy it whole. every part but not the shell. I even offered them a worse shell but nope, no joy
Hopefully we don't see another daft scheme such as this one aimed at kick-starting Korea's economy.
The American cash for clunkers was another daft idea, the number of really smart looking BMWs and Mercs you see being ruined on youtube under this scheme, there was even an Aston Martin DB7 disposed of!
Hopefully we don't see another daft scheme such as this one aimed at kick-starting Korea's economy.
The American cash for clunkers was another daft idea, the number of really smart looking BMWs and Mercs you see being ruined on youtube under this scheme, there was even an Aston Martin DB7 disposed of!
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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If they were saying that there was 17 to 25 FSO cars left registered in the UK before the scheme
That list says 5 FSO were killed in the scheme!!
236 mk1 Neon's were also killed off so no wonder the car is harder to get parts for!!!
That list says 5 FSO were killed in the scheme!!
236 mk1 Neon's were also killed off so no wonder the car is harder to get parts for!!!
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I'm going to buck the trend here and say 'so what' At the end of the day I'm assuming that on the whole most of these cars could not have worth more than the 2k that was allowed as the trade in. It's a financial decision at the end of the day and one that very likely on the whole probably made sense to these folk. Moreover the vehicles listed were the property of the people concerned and what they chose to do with them is their porogative and nothing to do with us at all, we may not like it, and we are entitled to an opinion, but at the end of the day it is immaterial.
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Never play chess with a pigeon. It will knock all the pieces over, S*#t on the board and then strut around pretending it won.
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I have to agree with Minxy - many of those cars could have been close to scrap anyway and, with the best will in the world, is a Metro, Escort, Sierra, Audi or VW something that must be preserved in large numbers, or just another mass-produced vehicle, good examples of which will still be on the road?
If you haven't ever scrapped a car (or bought parts from a car that was scrapped), you may be in a position to criticise someone who scraps their car - but just to blame scrappage for the demise of "classics" and ignore those (like me and my father) who scrapped "white goods" because they are no longer reliable or safe to use is a little hypocritical. That is if you assume the vehicles we have scrapped would now be considered classics: my Wolseley Hornet, SIV Minx, Maxi (parts donor) MM Oxford, 100E Pop and the written-off Mk2 Cortina, Montego and Mk4 Golf (neo-classic I assume) and Father's Maxi, Mk1 Mini Traveller, Rapier (fastback) , Triumph 1300, Cambridge Estate etc.
If you haven't ever scrapped a car (or bought parts from a car that was scrapped), you may be in a position to criticise someone who scraps their car - but just to blame scrappage for the demise of "classics" and ignore those (like me and my father) who scrapped "white goods" because they are no longer reliable or safe to use is a little hypocritical. That is if you assume the vehicles we have scrapped would now be considered classics: my Wolseley Hornet, SIV Minx, Maxi (parts donor) MM Oxford, 100E Pop and the written-off Mk2 Cortina, Montego and Mk4 Golf (neo-classic I assume) and Father's Maxi, Mk1 Mini Traveller, Rapier (fastback) , Triumph 1300, Cambridge Estate etc.
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Sorry, but I'm agreeing with Minxy and Tractor Man.
Every cloud, etc.Mitsuru wrote:..
236 mk1 Neon's were killed off..
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"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
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Haha,
Yes I agree with Minky etc, a lot of these cars weren't worth what they could get trading them in. Sad but true. A friend of mine had her grandparents donate her their 21,000 miles Morris Marina that was virtually immaculate. They said if I gave them £2000 I could have it but it wasn't worth that sadly and so the grand daughter got it to trade in for a new Fiesta.
However, given that cars had to have an MOT (and no doubt some were bent), there are a significant number of cars on the list that if sold privately would have fetched more than the £2000 incentive, THAT's what is a shame.
Yes I agree with Minky etc, a lot of these cars weren't worth what they could get trading them in. Sad but true. A friend of mine had her grandparents donate her their 21,000 miles Morris Marina that was virtually immaculate. They said if I gave them £2000 I could have it but it wasn't worth that sadly and so the grand daughter got it to trade in for a new Fiesta.
However, given that cars had to have an MOT (and no doubt some were bent), there are a significant number of cars on the list that if sold privately would have fetched more than the £2000 incentive, THAT's what is a shame.
2013 Dodge Durango R/T
1965 Ford Anglia 106e Estate (Wagon). LHD.
1964 Ford Anglia 105e Saloon
1965 Ford Anglia 106e Estate (Wagon). LHD.
1964 Ford Anglia 105e Saloon
Re: Sad reading
I have no problem with people scrapping unwanted cars, vehicle recycling is very important but not being able to buy a complete vehicle that had been scrapped was very frustrating. You could buy a vehicle that wasn't taken in on the scrappage scheme from most dismantlers so that rule annoyed me somewhat.
Some of the cars in there having been scrapped was annoying but you are all rather missing the point. We all gave these people £1000 from our pockets to scrap their old car. I can't afford a new car so why did I have to contribute towards someone that can?
Some of the cars in there having been scrapped was annoying but you are all rather missing the point. We all gave these people £1000 from our pockets to scrap their old car. I can't afford a new car so why did I have to contribute towards someone that can?
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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