In the workshop at present

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Grumpy Northener
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Re: In the workshop at present

#21 Post by Grumpy Northener » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:09 am

Nearside inner & outer sill completed
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: In the workshop at present

#22 Post by Grumpy Northener » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:12 am

These old things really do like to rust, don't they?
Well funny you should say - New front panel arrived today so I cut & removed the old one to find this can of rust worms
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: In the workshop at present

#23 Post by Grumpy Northener » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:21 am

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One hell of a good example as to why you should never dismiss / leave a leaking windscreen to fester or put off as one those jobs to do later - the front inner panel requires replacement along with the screen retaining edge - I will probably have to remove the dashboard to access / facilitate the repair - the lower sections that abut to the cab floor are just flat so I can piece these in from sheet steel - fortunately the inner panel & retaining edge are available as replacements but by the time these and the front panel are fitted there is not much change out of £800 - £1000 - all for the sake of a having a windscreen resealed - an expense of probably £25 to £50 at the most
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: In the workshop at present

#24 Post by vulgalour » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:20 pm

Another great example of why shiny paint doesn't always mean solid bodywork too! That' rather a lot more rot than it looked like could be hiding in there.

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Re: In the workshop at present

#25 Post by Grumpy Northener » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:49 pm

So whilst waiting for delivery of the inner front panel I tackled the side trim retaining rail on the nearside rear wing
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the rail was totally rotten - so window out and rail removed
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New rail welded in
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new side trim (old one was again rotten) trailed for panel fit
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: In the workshop at present

#26 Post by Grumpy Northener » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:12 pm

Back to the front panel
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some clown who had undertook a previous repair thought that applying a thick bead of sealer between the inside of the screen rubber and the dash panel would resolve the water ingress issues :twisted:
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Annoyingly the new inner front panel comes without the dash mounting brackets and these have to be recovered - cleaned up and spot welded to the new panel - I say annoyingly has this would add all of £1.50 to the price of the panel if was done at the factory - it's bad enough that a non over sized / non over complicated steel pressing is £150 in the first place
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tacked in and ready for trial fitting of the outer panel
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: In the workshop at present

#27 Post by Grumpy Northener » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:31 pm

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Front panel trial fitted / clamped in place - importantly -the windscreen was refitted to check the aperture - hell of a fight to get the panel fitted around the A pillars - screen removed and both panels fully welded - welds dressed back and just minor finishing required tomorrow before I fit the lower closing panels to the bottom of the A pillars
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: In the workshop at present

#28 Post by vulgalour » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:25 am

Once again, a shame that your work is all hidden when you're done. What was panel alignment like on these? It doesn't look like you had too much of a fight in the pictures.

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Re: In the workshop at present

#29 Post by Grumpy Northener » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:07 pm

Fitting the front panel was a swine - it's way too narrow in width - I had to open each side up and work the A posts back to get it to slip over - net result is that the fact that you can now drive a bus through the door gaps and I am going to have to put a few hours remedial work on the aperture gapping to get them to look anything like what they should - they were not brilliant before I started and the doors have been replaced with pattern replacements at some stage in the vans life which are not a brilliant fit - none the less I will still have to do something about the front aperture gaps - I will post a couple of images up when I get on to them - I have an old trick in mind for sorting them ;)
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: In the workshop at present

#30 Post by JPB » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:12 pm

Chris, a lesser man would have set the damned thing on fire by now! :lol: Your patience is impressive.

I'm looking forward to seeing your approach to adding metal to door edges. Does the work involve building up the leading or trailing edge of a door with welding rods. Or maybe with human bones carved out of the people who sign off these ill-fitting modern repro parts as fit for purpose.
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