1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Thanks guys,
I'm not sure if I mentioned it here (I know I did on another post) but I took a gamble with my ignition lock as I don't have any keys with the van, so I stripped the door, sliding door and engine lid locks off and ended up with a total of three separate key codes.
Now I know the cab doors are wrong (not 68 handles) so they have been changed in the past, it was more than likely that the sliding door was original and the engine lids also been added at a later date but I ordered two keys from these codes.
Anyway the keys turned up very quickly (which for once was actually annoying as I was working nights ) and the sliding door matches the ignition.
Sorted
Only strange thing was it didn't work in the sliding door (the code I actually ordered the key from) but that problem soon became apparent once I started stripping it.
So today I took a look at the other locks to see about putting them all onto one key, which is a tad frustrating but surprisingly very easy to do.
Yet again like everything else with this van I didn't think it would go this far but looking at the crap in the locks it was (yet again) well worth doing.
Most of the locks are generally in this sort of condition,
Except for that stubborn sliding door lock, which took about an hour to get out of the lock as it was seized solid. To free it I ended up soaking it in boiling water with the hope that all the different metals would free themselves up and it worked a treat.
This is the sliding door lock, in a very sorry state.
Cleaned the external of the barrel and it shows just how stuck the tumblers are in the barrel (with the key removed they should all be sticking out!)
So I pulled all the locks apart and cleaned each tumbler, you can also see a lot of the springs are knack erred but luckily I had a spare lock to steal the springs from.
Stripped
And cleaned,
Reassembled (tumblers are actually free and spring loaded now 8) )
All greased and it's now super smooth back in the handle,
still got the engine lid and tailgate to do (hoping the tailgate is original) but I now have one key that's fits both front cab doors, sliding door and ignition,
Just the big brake hurdle to get over..
I'm not sure if I mentioned it here (I know I did on another post) but I took a gamble with my ignition lock as I don't have any keys with the van, so I stripped the door, sliding door and engine lid locks off and ended up with a total of three separate key codes.
Now I know the cab doors are wrong (not 68 handles) so they have been changed in the past, it was more than likely that the sliding door was original and the engine lids also been added at a later date but I ordered two keys from these codes.
Anyway the keys turned up very quickly (which for once was actually annoying as I was working nights ) and the sliding door matches the ignition.
Sorted
Only strange thing was it didn't work in the sliding door (the code I actually ordered the key from) but that problem soon became apparent once I started stripping it.
So today I took a look at the other locks to see about putting them all onto one key, which is a tad frustrating but surprisingly very easy to do.
Yet again like everything else with this van I didn't think it would go this far but looking at the crap in the locks it was (yet again) well worth doing.
Most of the locks are generally in this sort of condition,
Except for that stubborn sliding door lock, which took about an hour to get out of the lock as it was seized solid. To free it I ended up soaking it in boiling water with the hope that all the different metals would free themselves up and it worked a treat.
This is the sliding door lock, in a very sorry state.
Cleaned the external of the barrel and it shows just how stuck the tumblers are in the barrel (with the key removed they should all be sticking out!)
So I pulled all the locks apart and cleaned each tumbler, you can also see a lot of the springs are knack erred but luckily I had a spare lock to steal the springs from.
Stripped
And cleaned,
Reassembled (tumblers are actually free and spring loaded now 8) )
All greased and it's now super smooth back in the handle,
still got the engine lid and tailgate to do (hoping the tailgate is original) but I now have one key that's fits both front cab doors, sliding door and ignition,
Just the big brake hurdle to get over..
Mark.
Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Knowing my luck if I tried that, the springs would have pinged off everywhere, never to be seen again!
Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Been there done that! and still finding the bits 6 years on mother hates me for that as she is the one who finds themmach1rob wrote:Knowing my luck if I tried that, the springs would have pinged off everywhere, never to be seen again!
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Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Nice one. Did this on the boot lock on the Wolseley - built one out of two. Immensely satisfying. I did stick the tumblers to a magnet though - more chance of staying in the right order with small children thundering about the place. Little touch with a file and loads of graphite powder and it worked a treat.
P45.
P45.
Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Really good work, well worth doing the fiddly bits like this so in the end everything works as it should.89rallye wrote:
All greased and it's now super smooth back in the handle,
However, P45 touches on an important issue above when he mentions graphite - you say you greased the locks, and sure, for a while they will work fine. However, the chances are that the reason they got so bunged up in the first place was that someone had oiled or greased them - this atracts muck and dust over time and will end up jamming them up again. Ideally you should use graphite dust, or some special lubricant designed for lock barrels, which won't attract a build up of crud.
As I say, it'll work fine for a while, but it's your call if you want to flush out the grease and replace it with graphite for an even longer life.
ONly a small picky point though - really enjoying this thread and you're doing a grand job on the old bus! Keep it up, loving the photos and write-up on each stage!
Cheers
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Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
This is a very satisfying job, I remember having to do the same on an Golf GTI that I owned where none of the locks matched for various reasons. I got so fed up with having 4 keys this seemed the sensible option and as you say quite straight forward to do.
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Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Many years ago, I worked for a locksmith that charged £40 per lock to do that. Think how much you have saved not having to pay someone else to do the job.
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Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
The last one I did was for a teacher's Xara that wouldn't lock. I used a plastic bag when I took the lock apart and that kept the pesky springs in one place!
I did warn him that he should be careful where he parked it - one of the "levers" had got mashed up (which is why the lock didn't work), so it ended up being a lot easier to pick! It was then that he said he was selling the car in a few days!
I did warn him that he should be careful where he parked it - one of the "levers" had got mashed up (which is why the lock didn't work), so it ended up being a lot easier to pick! It was then that he said he was selling the car in a few days!
Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Sorry I'll be a bit more specific next time,Luxobarge wrote:Really good work, well worth doing the fiddly bits like this so in the end everything works as it should.89rallye wrote:
All greased and it's now super smooth back in the handle,
However, P45 touches on an important issue above when he mentions graphite - you say you greased the locks, and sure, for a while they will work fine. However, the chances are that the reason they got so bunged up in the first place was that someone had oiled or greased them - this atracts muck and dust over time and will end up jamming them up again. Ideally you should use graphite dust, or some special lubricant designed for lock barrels, which won't attract a build up of crud.
As I say, it'll work fine for a while, but it's your call if you want to flush out the grease and replace it with graphite for an even longer life.
ONly a small picky point though - really enjoying this thread and you're doing a grand job on the old bus! Keep it up, loving the photos and write-up on each stage!
Cheers
89rallye wrote:
All greased with graphite lube and it's now super smooth back in the handle,
This is the stuff I used in the end,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-door-lock ... 2ecf4edbc9
Mark.
Re: 1971 VW full build (warning lots of pics)
Oh OK, cool - that looks ideal, sorry for doubting you for a moment!
I'm sure you'll agree though that grease or oil could have been the culprit for them getting in that state in the first place though - just goes to show eh?
As I say, nice work, keep the updates coming!
Cheers
I'm sure you'll agree though that grease or oil could have been the culprit for them getting in that state in the first place though - just goes to show eh?
As I say, nice work, keep the updates coming!
Cheers
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