Early Javelin Restoration

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Grumpy Northener
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#341 Post by Grumpy Northener » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:30 pm

Will almost be a shame to put paint on this, it looks fantastic in bare metal with all the work you've put in on it.
Very kind of you to say so - I am lucky that I have access to most of the facilities & equipment needed along with some of the tricks required that I have gleaned over the years ;)
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#342 Post by SirTainleyBarking » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:03 pm

Grumpy Northener wrote:
Will almost be a shame to put paint on this, it looks fantastic in bare metal with all the work you've put in on it.
Very kind of you to say so - I am lucky that I have access to most of the facilities & equipment needed along with some of the tricks required that I have gleaned over the years ;)
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#343 Post by Grumpy Northener » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:16 pm

O/S/R Door
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The inner support had become a water trap hence rust had worked its through the skin
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Cut out and new metal ready for letting in - Flanged over the frame and the check strap aperture made good at the same time
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Cleaned up - thankfully not too many of these welding repairs left to do now :D
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#344 Post by Grumpy Northener » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:29 pm

The bottom of the frame was shot - we had a new repair section in stock so that saved quite a lot of time in making the section up
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It took quite a bit of trimming before I was happy with the fit but was quite a quick job to get welded in and cleaned up
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Then rehung to check panel gap & fit
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Just the window channel on the inner frame to sort where the lower 150mm has rotted out
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#345 Post by Grumpy Northener » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:25 pm

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O/S/R door window channel guide was rotted out - I removed the old one and made a new section up
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O/S/F door required some tidying around the hinge rebates
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#346 Post by Grumpy Northener » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:31 pm

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Hinge rebates sorted and doors rehung
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Leading edge of rear door had minor pinholes which were corrected with a little brazing then cleaned back
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Minor repairs to the top edge of the rear shroud
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Soon sorted
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#347 Post by Grumpy Northener » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:45 pm

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Roof gutter edge just above the front offside door was in holes & very weak Only one thing for it - removed and a new section made up & formed
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Then welded in - I made the repair oversize on the leading edge and then just took it back to the correct profile with a large flat file
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A few odds to sort this weekend welding wise before we ready for the shell to visit to the restoration show
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#348 Post by Grumpy Northener » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:00 am

So I pushed on with works to the bodyshell at the Practical Classics Restoration Show last weekend - very little in the form of welding repairs are now required so I used lead loading has a demonstration on the club stand - (see separate thread on the show - which I will post over this weekend). Lead would have been used in factory seams / joints when the bodyshell was originally built - no polyester / cataloy fillers about in those days. I am going to lead the original joints & seams along with the repair areas where possible / practical - this will give a better quality of repair although to complete the final profiles I intend to use a very slight skim of a high quality polyester body filler.

The metal should be clean / sound prior to painting a solder paste upon the repair area - this is then heated in order to tin the metal and wiped clean with a damp cloth - lead is then placed to the repair area with heat - just lumps from the bar - don't worry about the shape / profile for now - once loaded a lead paddle is used with tallow (to prevent the hot lead sticking to the paddle) - just enough heat but not too much is required in order to get the paddle to push the lead into a rough profile - then a bodyfile is used to reduce the area to correct profile - some larger areas may require a reloading once you have the basic shape - it's a bit of a skill otherwise you have the lead running off the metalwork quicker than you can apply / shape it - apologies I don't really have images of the process has I was undertaking it - just the before and afters.
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles

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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#349 Post by suffolkpete » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:47 pm

And you made it look so easy!
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Re: Early Javelin Restoration

#350 Post by TerryG » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:53 pm

I will admit to being a bit green eyed having seen the Javelin in person. I'd lacquer the steel so everyone could see how perfect the bodywork actually is.
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