Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 & 164 3.0 24V Cloverleaf

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75nut
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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#51 Post by 75nut » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:30 pm

Really? I mean the underside did not HAVE to be done,I just wantto do it while the cars up.

Took today out of the office, but had to pick up my dog at 3 from vets and going out at 7 so under instructions not to get filthy again :lol: , so did not get full day in.

Boring really, scrape, wire brush, kurust and repeat!! But nearly finished and ready to start putting things back! New copper arrived for fuel pipes take 2!

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Found a BIG hole in the engine support area! So will get some thick plate and the welder out

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#52 Post by alfaSleep » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:30 am

lol... Hiyya , M8

'biscuit & tea' comes to mind.......

unloved examples really did just progress from dealer >> to >> breaker [with 'brown shorts' excitements, inbetween] :shock:

chr1st!!! just-rust!!

glad yrr saving (welding 98.997%) of this one :P

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#53 Post by 75nut » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:40 pm

Lol, cheers mate!

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#54 Post by Xantia-nut » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:34 am

Ay up!

I thought RUST = Rust, usual Sixties/Seventies trait?

Well done on this. You are a brave man. And you'll have an unusual car and make no mistake.
If in doubt, give it a clout!

If that don't work, fetch a bigger 'ammer!

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#55 Post by 75nut » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:32 am

Busy weekend.

Had to change oil on the wifes daily, which turned out to be a mission as some monkey massively over tightend the sump plug! I tried loads of manual tools as I was afraid my impact drive would thread it.

In the end I had to go that route with a rounded bolt socket attachement!

Used a magnetic sump plug ,don't know if they really make any difference or not really.

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Took my little girl for a walk after and found a car that was too gone even for me!!!

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A Subaru Justy, the farmers here just ditch broken cars in the hedges and gullies round here.

It was time to get back to my rusty old car then

Finished Hammeriting the recently scraped and kurusted areas

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All thats needed now is to waxoyl it all but my supplier sent the wrong type so thats on hold.

So my attention move to the rotten spare wheel well. I cut out the area, cleaned it, zinc'd it and made a template from masking tape on the cut out area and transfered to to some thick sheet.

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Ground down and leaded as I dont want any filler here as its a proper rot spot!
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BUT a complete waste of time as I have decided to drill out the spot welds and remove it altogether lol!!!

Its a massive pain to get to the rear of the Watts Linkage in the left and the rear brake caliper, wit hit removed accesss will be way better!

Il just carry the stuff in a can for punctures

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#56 Post by 75nut » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:39 pm

Finally finished the first coat of waxoyl undersealing today, it will need a second but nice to see it all the same fresh black, and all the bits of crusty stuff gone!

So time to start putting stuff back on!

First up handbrake cable needed renewing while everything was off
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And in, simple job when everyhing is off the car
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I just needed to replace the rotten securing tab futher back, I have been doing this all over the car as I have been going
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It was time to redo my pants last attempt at fuel pipes, if you remember I made them to big and to flared and bent them badly fitting, and also had the idiotic idea of adding foam to protect the pipes. Which many immediately point out was a good way of capturing misture and getting all the rot I just got rid of back quickly :lol:

So I remade with smaller flares and exactly the same sizing, and used cut up rubber fuel pipe to protec the contact points of the copper pipe, and zip tied them further so they stay in place (unfortunately I had a choice of stupid big white zip ties or the right size in yellow)

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All done

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The battery was dead, so even after adding fuel I could not test to ensure it was all working ok with no leaks etc, so that will have to be done tommorow.

Removed the gearlever from under the car to check out this cracking

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and decide if I wanted to cut some of the length out of the lever, but had to go spend some time with my litten by then so that was it for the day.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#57 Post by 75nut » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:43 pm

Not updated in a while but have been working

Spent it taking the spare wheel well out.

Used spot weld cutter to remove all the spot welds.

Cut the well out with angle grinder with cutting blade and then chiseled the remains away

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Then used the wheel well to make up a template for the panel Im going to weld in using the holes left over from removal for pug welds.

But unfortunately the sheet metal I get is not quite wide enough to do it in one go so Il have the weld a bit more on.

I started to knock in some strengthing strips, firs ttime doing this, going to flatten them a little and shape a bit nicer, but will defo do the job.

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Oh found more bodge, boot seal area, full of filler over rot!

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Found a bit of BMX piping ( I had cut some up to make a go kart for my daughter) that has the same profile as the swage and mounted on a piece of box steel to make a former to try an improve them.

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Swapped over form the big hammer to my proper metal working hammer which instantly gave a smoother finish, and then dressed it over my former with a flat head. Looking better.

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Last attempt was the best and using a blunt chisel to go round the edge gave a better shape

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All welded in from underneath.

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In reality its all going to get covered in heavy stone chip so the ripples would never have been seen but I just wanted to know it was the best to my ability.

By no means perfect and being as I was trying to match the alfa swages which made it hard I feel.

All seam sealed in now ready for the paint etc.

One more thing ticked off! And hopefully easier brake pad changes in future!

Then not got alot done as been sorting my daily, 92 Saab 900 Convertible for MOT.

But yesterday I got a few odds and sods done.

First to sort was the rotten centre prop support jobbie (there to catch it I guess if it drops). The top was completely rotten.

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Bottom ok after a wire brush

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Took out spot welds and chiselled the top off

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Cut out rot and welded in new edge

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The wire brushed, zinc primed and stonechipped, covering the area I would be spot welding to

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Plug welded new panel over top, did not see the need to replicate the oval shape, its just allows access to the bolts.

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Then zinc primed and stone chipped whol thing after grinding off the plug welds

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Went back ,wire brushed off the seam sealer that had reacted to the spare wheel panel I had put in and re applied, it seemed not to like zic primer but ok with red oxide. Left to dry as it will then get hammerited,sptone chipped and waxoyled.

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A delivery of bits had arrived, bushes, anti roll bar and a frame, figure mas a well do all while its all out.

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A frame bush got burnt out, anti roll bar I pushed out.

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Id had painted it before as the bush had been ok, but now want everything as new its not good enough.

Pressed the anti roll bar bushes with sockets and vice after they had spend a few hours in the freezer and I had heated the hole.

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It got a paint after

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Painted yoke and add he new poly bushes, all ready for new bolts, which currently I don't have lol!

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The gearbox mounting bushes are also to be replaced with brand new (she should be tight as a drum after all this!) , but the bolts where solid ,so the propane weed burner came out to remove those pesky hex bolts! Worked treat

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Will also get a coat of paint ready for the new bushes.

The A frame bush is in freeze awaiting installation.

Thats all , cheers

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#58 Post by 75nut » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:47 pm

Weather was good so ditched the office and cracked on!

First up pressed the the new poly bush in the A Frame after freezing it and using a puller

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The fitted the new gearbox mounts

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Set about the prop

When your front donut looks like this is time to do something lol!!

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New one ready to go on , and yes im leaving the metals bands on untill its all fitted on car!

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Also got a rear one , this is the old one, its total useable but some very small cracking present and I dont want to take it all off again anytime soon

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Decided to leave the support as its ok with no cracking so the new one will be sent back to EBSpares or sold off cheaper on here

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Gave the tubes a light coat of paint and lightly bolted the new donuts on

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Then added my new Poly centre donut , and as you can see had a brain freeze and bolted the yolks to each other not just the donut, time to dig out the extra set of bolts lol!

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So here is how it is, lightly bolted ready to re instal once the aframe and gearbox are back in.

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Intresting to notice someone already marked the nip bolt

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Finished building up the gearbox and AFrame.

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I also got the prop back in on the front mounts and the centre support ready to connect the gearbox tommorow.

No pic as my phone battery ran out and by then the sun was going down and it was bloody freezing!! I'd been working all day in 4 layers lol!

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#59 Post by JPB » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:14 am

Good progress here, just one constructive point if it's OK;
did not see the need to replicate the oval shape, its just allows access to the bolts.
It does, but even if they're not the original shape, the slots shouldn't have corners. They're that shape for stiffness and will crack and run from the corners in time. I'd not pull the whole thing apart though, just lose any corners and make sure the ends are round, that should do it. While you're in about at that, it's a good idea to make the nuts captive for ease of assembly. I had two consecutive 75s back in the late '90s, by which I mean that the cars actually were consecutively numbered and had been supplied the same day and time to the NEEB fleet. I rebuilt the better of the two and ended up swapping both for a (Volvo) 164 accidentally. The patter only said "164" so you'll guess what I was expecting to find. :oops: :lol:
I'd had 140s for years so the prospect of the longer IL6 version of the same wasn't altogether unwelcome and that big 6 with its fuel injection used no more fuel than the twin spark on Dellortos. :?

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Re: Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 1991 Ongoing Project

#60 Post by 75nut » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:51 am

I see your valid point concenring stifness, put isnt the part there simply to catch the prop if it drops, it doesn't perfrom any other function does it?

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